On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 11:23 AM Scott Kitterman <skl...@kitterman.com>
wrote:

> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 10:57:16 AM EDT Todd Herr wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 9:57 AM Scott Kitterman <skl...@kitterman.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I agree.  The one thing I think would be useful would be to move more
> of
> > > the
> > > text relating to failure reporting out of DMARCbis and into the failure
> > > reporting draft.
> > >
> [snip]
> >
> > I'm not sure that the work you're proposing isn't already done in
> DMARCbis.
> > For example, section 7.4, Reporting, reads in its entirety "Discussion of
> > both aggregate and failure reporting have been moved to separate
> documents
> > dedicated to the topics."
> >
> > I'm curious to see the specifics you propose -
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis/
>
> There are a few things:
>
> In 5.3, General Record Format, move the fo and ruf definitions.  Unknown
> tags
> MUST be ignored, so there's no need to define all the tags in this
> document.
>
>
This would have some knock on effects in 5.4, Formal Definition and 9.4,
> DMARC
> Tag Registry.
>


I disagree with the idea of moving tag definitions from DMARCbis to another
document, as it strikes me that DMARCbis is the correct place to discuss
the format of a DMARC policy record, including all possible tags therein.
I'm willing to be overruled by consensus, but I disagree.

[snip]


> The examples in B.2.2 and B.2.3, regardless of this proposed change,
> should
> refer to the failure reporting draft (and would even more definitely need
> to
> with the proposed change).
>

I'm not sure I agree with the idea of moving these examples, either, simply
because of my position that DMARCbis is the place to define all the tags,
and so seems the best place to show examples of declarations of those tags.
If the consensus is to move these sections to the Failure Reporting doc,
then to be consistent B.2.1 and B.2.4 would be moved to the Aggregate
Reporting doc, because they both have rua tags, and at that point we have
an empty section of Domain Owner Examples in DMARCbis.
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