On June 20, 2023 4:33:48 PM UTC, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>It appears that Tobias Herkula  <tobias.herk...@1und1.de> said:
>>-=-=-=-=-=-
>>Sadly they can’t, there are Mailbox Providers that expect SPF Records, so to 
>>maintain deliverability to those, you have to keep SPF
>>records in place and can’t switch to an DKIM only DMARC.
>
>Nobody's saying you can't publish SPF.  We're just saying DMARC should ignore 
>it.

See the message I sent in a new thread for details.

I don't think this makes any sense.  There are problematic messages passing 
SPF.  Similarly there are problematic messages passing DKIM.  All dumping SPF 
does is increase the incentive to replay DKIM.

The problem here is domains authorizing their mail to be sent from under 
controlled third party sources.  Once SPF is gone, they'll use DKIM and still 
send "bad" messages.  Problem not solved.

If, for example, you deploy BIMI, and messages you didn't send get the BIMI 
marker, the solution is to hunt through your DMARC feedback reports, figure out 
which third party authenticated the message, and fire them.

This is an economics/incentives problem, not a technical problem.

Scott K

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