Title: RE: [dnb-prod] Re: volume

You should avoid normalization if possible. It may cause rounding errors which can be a problem.

 

You need to compress to increase the loudness of your tracks. I don’t think it has much to do with CD-Rs.

 

al

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ashlin, Mark MP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 February 2002 01:50
To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume

 

Like you say, I usually record dj mixes in to Forge and Wavelab on the PC at around -4db. Then I just run a normalise over the entire file (an hour dj set takes a while if you don't do things like disable undo temporarilly)... Well the point is i've read ppl mention this can be not be a good idea as it digitally reprocesses the entire mix and can end up fukin up things like the eq and compression in the track....(only slightly)...I don't ever notice much distortion of the track, it just gets louder, but then I dont spend my life in a studio as much as ide like to so i don't have a clinnical ear. Is it just not something to worry about or can doing this to mixes end up being noticed by studios and their 'clinical ears'???  Should us bedroom bangers even worry bout this?

Another point is that I've noticed my friends saying they find the volume of my mixes and tracks I give them on CD are considerably quieter than commercial presses. I have heard this is due to the fact that CD'R's burn into a pigment in the cd so there is not as much dynamic ability (what the fuck is that?) ...does everyone else find this or am i in Tumbleweed weed land on this one?

Oh...and has anyone noticed that on one of the later released Seimens cell phones, the callender  went straight from 30th December 2001, to 1st Jan 2002 ??? Good way to save money on your bill!

8p  

 

-----Original Message-----
From: - "KRIS" - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:37 AM
To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume

 

You want to stay away from 0db when recording digitally. When recording
analog, you want a average reading of 0db. Not really a problem to go over
0db a few times on an analog tape machine, but digital clipping is something
you want to stay away from. If your recording on your computer, try for an
average reading of -4 or -6db. Since digital recording doesnt add as much
noise as analog, you can get away with recording softer, and boosting the
signal later without too much noise being added. Im not sure if any of you
use digital clipping as an effect on your drums or anything, but its a
pretty nasty sound if your going for a "clean" recording. So yea, going over
0db in the digital realm is clipping. Just something to get this topic
rolling....

 

Kris

 

>From: "Jurgen Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: [dnb-prod] volume
>Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:55:00 +0100
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>
>Okay,
>since volume seems to be getting an issue lately while I produce (read:
>clipping), I'd
>like to know a bit more about it.
>
>How does the db count work for instance, 0db seems to be what you have to
>aim for (I
>always though that was silence), and going over it means clipping (?)
>
>Links, tips or comments are appreciated.
>
>thanx,
>Jurgen.
>
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