After all this reading, you can check out this compressor plug-in, "peak
compressor", were you can see the wav you're compressing and where are you
setting the thresold.. great to get started using compressors.

----- Original Message -----
From: "cacofone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:16 PM
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume


> http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm?meta=rs&terms=Audio+Compression
>
> About's really good and has more information than you'd think.
>
> Joshua
>
> At 07:57 AM 2/27/02, you wrote:
> >Is there a Site you can visit that explains how to "compress" your audio
> >files? I would like to learn alittle about this since i record alot of my
> >mixes using SoundForge.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "alpher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:41 PM
> >Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume
> >
> >
> > > Normalising will reduce accuracy. Any gain change is a multiplication.
> > > Multiply a 16 bit number and you'll get a result which requires more
> > > than 16 bits to remain accurate.
> > >
> > > This loss of accuracy results in distortion of low level 'components'
of
> > > a sound, not just low level sounds. This manifests itself as a loss of
> > > spaciousness, and clarity.
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jurgen Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 26 February 2002 19:38
> > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume
> > >
> > >
> > > Rounding errors?
> > > How are those a problem?
> > >
> > > ------------------------
> > > On 26 Feb 2002 at 2:09, alpher wrote:
> > >
> > > > You should avoid normalization if possible. It may cause rounding
> > > errors
> > > > which can be a problem.
> > > >
> > > > You need to compress to increase the loudness of your tracks. I
don't
> > > > think it has much to do with CD-Rs.
> > > >
> > > > al
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ashlin, Mark MP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 26 February 2002 01:50
> > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume
> > > >
> > > > Like you say, I usually record dj mixes in to Forge and Wavelab on
the
> > > > PC at around -4db. Then I just run a normalise over the entire file
> > > (an
> > > > hour dj set takes a while if you don't do things like disable undo
> > > > temporarilly)... Well the point is i've read ppl mention this can be
> > > not
> > > > be a good idea as it digitally reprocesses the entire mix and can
end
> > > up
> > > > fukin up things like the eq and compression in the track....(only
> > > > slightly)...I don't ever notice much distortion of the track, it
just
> > > > gets louder, but then I dont spend my life in a studio as much as
ide
> > > > like to so i don't have a clinnical ear. Is it just not something to
> > > > worry about or can doing this to mixes end up being noticed by
studios
> > > > and their 'clinical ears'???  Should us bedroom bangers even worry
> > > bout
> > > > this?
> > > > Another point is that I've noticed my friends saying they find the
> > > > volume of my mixes and tracks I give them on CD are considerably
> > > quieter
> > > > than commercial presses. I have heard this is due to the fact that
> > > > CD'R's burn into a pigment in the cd so there is not as much dynamic
> > > > ability (what the fuck is that?) ...does everyone else find this or
am
> > > i
> > > > in Tumbleweed weed land on this one?
> > > > Oh...and has anyone noticed that on one of the later released
Seimens
> > > > cell phones, the callender  went straight from 30th December 2001,
to
> > > > 1st Jan 2002 ??? Good way to save money on your bill!
> > > > 8p
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: - "KRIS" - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:37 AM
> > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume
> > > >
> > > > You want to stay away from 0db when recording digitally. When
> > > recording
> > > > analog, you want a average reading of 0db. Not really a problem to
go
> > > > over
> > > > 0db a few times on an analog tape machine, but digital clipping is
> > > > something
> > > > you want to stay away from. If your recording on your computer, try
> > > for
> > > > an
> > > > average reading of -4 or -6db. Since digital recording doesnt add as
> > > > much
> > > > noise as analog, you can get away with recording softer, and
boosting
> > > > the
> > > > signal later without too much noise being added. Im not sure if any
of
> > > > you
> > > > use digital clipping as an effect on your drums or anything, but its
a
> > >
> > > > pretty nasty sound if your going for a "clean" recording. So yea,
> > > going
> > > > over
> > > > 0db in the digital realm is clipping. Just something to get this
topic
> > >
> > > > rolling....
> > > >
> > > > Kris
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Jurgen Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List"
> > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Subject: [dnb-prod] volume
> > > > >Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:55:00 +0100
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Okay,
> > > > >since volume seems to be getting an issue lately while I produce
> > > (read:
> > > >
> > > > >clipping), I'd
> > > > >like to know a bit more about it.
> > > > >
> > > > >How does the db count work for instance, 0db seems to be what you
> > > have
> > > > to
> > > > >aim for (I
> > > > >always though that was silence), and going over it means clipping
(?)
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Links, tips or comments are appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > >thanx,
> > > > >Jurgen.
> > > > >
> >
> > > > >
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