Normalising will reduce accuracy. Any gain change is a multiplication. Multiply a 16 bit number and you'll get a result which requires more than 16 bits to remain accurate.
This loss of accuracy results in distortion of low level 'components' of a sound, not just low level sounds. This manifests itself as a loss of spaciousness, and clarity. Al -----Original Message----- From: Jurgen Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 February 2002 19:38 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume Rounding errors? How are those a problem? ------------------------ On 26 Feb 2002 at 2:09, alpher wrote: > You should avoid normalization if possible. It may cause rounding errors > which can be a problem. > > You need to compress to increase the loudness of your tracks. I don't > think it has much to do with CD-Rs. > > al > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ashlin, Mark MP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 26 February 2002 01:50 > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume > > Like you say, I usually record dj mixes in to Forge and Wavelab on the > PC at around -4db. Then I just run a normalise over the entire file (an > hour dj set takes a while if you don't do things like disable undo > temporarilly)... Well the point is i've read ppl mention this can be not > be a good idea as it digitally reprocesses the entire mix and can end up > fukin up things like the eq and compression in the track....(only > slightly)...I don't ever notice much distortion of the track, it just > gets louder, but then I dont spend my life in a studio as much as ide > like to so i don't have a clinnical ear. Is it just not something to > worry about or can doing this to mixes end up being noticed by studios > and their 'clinical ears'??? Should us bedroom bangers even worry bout > this? > Another point is that I've noticed my friends saying they find the > volume of my mixes and tracks I give them on CD are considerably quieter > than commercial presses. I have heard this is due to the fact that > CD'R's burn into a pigment in the cd so there is not as much dynamic > ability (what the fuck is that?) ...does everyone else find this or am i > in Tumbleweed weed land on this one? > Oh...and has anyone noticed that on one of the later released Seimens > cell phones, the callender went straight from 30th December 2001, to > 1st Jan 2002 ??? Good way to save money on your bill! > 8p > > -----Original Message----- > From: - "KRIS" - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:37 AM > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume > > You want to stay away from 0db when recording digitally. When recording > analog, you want a average reading of 0db. Not really a problem to go > over > 0db a few times on an analog tape machine, but digital clipping is > something > you want to stay away from. If your recording on your computer, try for > an > average reading of -4 or -6db. Since digital recording doesnt add as > much > noise as analog, you can get away with recording softer, and boosting > the > signal later without too much noise being added. Im not sure if any of > you > use digital clipping as an effect on your drums or anything, but its a > pretty nasty sound if your going for a "clean" recording. So yea, going > over > 0db in the digital realm is clipping. Just something to get this topic > rolling.... > > Kris > > >From: "Jurgen Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [dnb-prod] volume > >Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:55:00 +0100 > > > > > >Okay, > >since volume seems to be getting an issue lately while I produce (read: > > >clipping), I'd > >like to know a bit more about it. > > > >How does the db count work for instance, 0db seems to be what you have > to > >aim for (I > >always though that was silence), and going over it means clipping (?) > > > >Links, tips or comments are appreciated. > > > >thanx, > >Jurgen. > > > > > >--- > >ICQ #: 3362938 > > > >"progress doesn't come from early risers, > > progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things" > > > >--- > > > > > >--- > >Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > >You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > --- > Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > EOM > NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information > that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for > use by the intended recipient. 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