On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 02:43:57PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> ...
>     We are discovering day after day that "init freedom" is about
> the emerged part of the iceberg. Debian still pretends to offer init
> freedom. What is under the sea level is a whole monolithic operating
> system absorbing all critical Linux subsystems like a black hole.
> Therefore escaping this monster means much more than init freedom,
> it is something like keeping a free Linux/Gnu OS.

Didier, as a lurker, can I ask what elements besides systemd and udev do
you think define this black hole? Is there a consensus over this?

Haines Brown
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