Le 04/01/2016 15:29, Haines Brown a écrit :
On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 02:43:57PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
...
We are discovering day after day that "init freedom" is about
the emerged part of the iceberg. Debian still pretends to offer init
freedom. What is under the sea level is a whole monolithic operating
system absorbing all critical Linux subsystems like a black hole.
Therefore escaping this monster means much more than init freedom,
it is something like keeping a free Linux/Gnu OS.
Didier, as a lurker, can I ask what elements besides systemd and udev do
you think define this black hole? Is there a consensus over this?
From the beginning, there is also syslog, some integration of the
display-manager to have the xwindow server running under user's account.
udev and dbus are being absorbed, which was not announced initially
There are other things I have read on this list, but I don't remember
them... It's much more than an init program.
Didier
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