On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:18:41 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20180430191841.gg26...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 08:15:58PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:16:14 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message 
> > <20180430171614.gf26...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> >   
> > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 06:31:45PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > 
> > > [cut]
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > ..then all 3 should work perfectly fine in
> > > > my /etc/apt/sources.list. Trying auto.mirror, I was offered
> > > > updateable tzdata (2018d-0+deb9u1) and
> > > > libdatetime-timezone-perl (1:2.09-1+2018d), which I updated,
> > > > and 28 "New", 26 depending on systemd and 2 non-systemd
> > > > depending packages, all of which I rejected. 
> > > 
> > > Can you please post the list of those packages depending on
> > > systemd (with the corresponding version)?  
> > 
> > 
> > ..these 25 depends on systemd "et al":
> > # aptitude -w72 -F '%p %v %V'  search '~N'
> > 389-ds-base                                <none>
> > 1.3.5.17-2 arctica-greeter
> > <none>         0.99.0.2-2~bpo
> > ayatana-indicator-session                  <none>
> > 0.4.1-1~bpo9+1 cloudprint-service
> > <none>         0.14-8 dbus-user-session
> > <none>         1.10.26-0+deb9
> > friendly-recovery                          <none>         0.2.34
> > iio-sensor-proxy                           <none>         2.0-4
> > kde-config-systemd                         <none>         1.2.1-3
> > libnss-resolve                             <none>
> > 232-25+deb9u3 libnss-systemd
> > <none>         232-25+deb9u3
> > libpam-systemd                             <none>
> > 232-25+deb9u3 live-config-systemd
> > <none>         5.20170112+deb
> > local-apt-repository                       <none>         0.4
> > open-infrastructure-system-config          <none>
> > 20161101-lts1- openvpn-systemd-resolved
> > <none>         1.2.3-1 plymouth
> > <none>         0.9.2-4 rasdaemon
> > <none>         0.5.8-1+b1
> > runit-systemd                              <none>         2.1.2-9.2
> > snapd                                      <none>         2.21-2+b1
> > systemd-container                          <none>
> > 232-25+deb9u3 systemd-coredump
> > <none>         232-25+deb9u3
> > systemd-cron                               <none>         1.5.8-1
> > systemd-journal-remote                     <none>
> > 232-25+deb9u3 systemd-tests
> > <none>         237-3~bpo9+1
> > systemd-ui                                 <none>         3-4+b1   
> 
> I don't know where aptitude gets this information from, but none of
> those packages are available from pkgmaster.devuan.org or from
> packages.devuan.org.
> 
> Please use `apt-cache policy PKGNAME` to check. For instance:
> 
> apt-cache policy systemd-ui
> systemd-ui:
>    Installed: (none)
>    Candidate: (none)
>    Version table:
> 
> All the packages that depend directly on systemd are automatically
> masked and removed from the Devuan Release files. Unless you are using
> non-Devuan repos, there is no way any of those can be installed in
> your system :)


..ok?, https://pastebin.com/QFtA9NGT has output of: 
~# apt-cache policy $(aptitude -w72 -F '%p '  search '~N' )


..https://pastebin.com/aeSbzP0M has output of: 
date ;aptitude -t experimental update ;date
(before https://pastebin.com/QFtA9NGT )
date ;aptitude -t experimental update ;date
apt-cache policy $(aptitude -w72 -F '%p '  search '~N' )
cat /etc/apt/sources.list

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.
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