On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 05:19:22PM -0500, Jamey Fletcher wrote:
> > I'd prefer to see chips from scratch, rather than patching on features
> > late in the game. We can be pretty sure chip makers will only patch
> > problems as they are found instead of redesigning their chips to prevent
> > future problems.
> 
> The problem with doing that is you find yourself facing all new bugs never
> before seen.  As well as having to characterize the new chips from the
> ground up to get best results.
> 
> > My reaction to the situation is that I'll no longer buy new hardware at
> > all. Everything I buy now is second user, until I see chip makers pulling
> > their finger out and doing what really needs doing.
> 
> > On top of that I'll only buy hardware that can be free software down to
> > the bios. It should be nothing to them what runs in the bios, so I'll wait
> > and see if they can be more flexible there (for however long it takes).
> 
> Need to go for a lot deeper than the "bios".  Modern processors have at
> least another layer under that, either on the CPU or in the chipset.

Ideally, the bottom layer should be such that rewriting it won't brick 
the processor -- at least you should aways be able to rewrite it again.

-- hendrik
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