On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 03:41:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:11:33PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> > + amd64:       61%
> > + i386         24%
> 
> This is troubling.  There's a strong reason to deprecate i386, and relegate
> it to a level akin to mips or s390x -- ie, with security support but
> requiring a conscious decision to install.  There are people with hardware
> that genuinely lacks the NX bit, but it's only them who should be running
> i386.  You can read one of Linus' rants when discussing techniques needed
> for mitigating melted spectrum on 32-bit kernels on 64-bit capable hardware
> (TL;DR: it really sucks performance wise, compared to vulnerable
> (out-of-order) but 32-bit only CPUs), that's just one of reasons why.
> 
> I guess you make download links for i386 installer way too prominent,
> without offering an explanation.

uh? How are the i386 links "way too prominent"? The isos are just
there, and there is no blinking link. If people download those images,
it means that they need them. Why should Devuan "hide" them away?

I mean, there are not many distributions out there still offering
support for i686 hardware, and we have actually received many emails
of users who thank Devuan for supporting i686 and letting them
continue using their "old" hardware that you would like to see
discontinued. So it makes a lot of sense to provide them.

I know that the technologically sound solution in our western (rich)
world would be to buy newer hardware as soon as it is available, but
you don't always have that option, as strange as that migh sound to
you. And the recently discovered flaws in newer CPUs cast some doubt
about the technological soundness of the consumerist "let's get the
latest on the market" approach anyway.

I remain strongly convinced that maintaining i686 support as long as
possible should remain an ongoing objective for Devuan.

HND

KatolaZ

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