Johan Ihren and I and Olaf had a competing ID that delt with shelf life and
embedded devices w/o an easy way to update key info.  RFC 5011 won out
since shelf life and embedded devices were considered edge cases.

/Wm

On Wednesday, 16 November 2016, Tony Finch <d...@dotat.at> wrote:

> Wessels, Duane <dwess...@verisign.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think its possible to have a solution that works for devices on
> > the shelf for an arbitrarily long time.  You posed the problem as 10
> > years, which I think is an unrealistically long time.
> >
> > You could probably have a useful discussion about what is an appropriate
> > amount of time for something to be on the shelf and still expect it to
> > work.  If there is some consensus on that then the operators of the key
> > material can design around it.
>
> Good points.
>
> I think 10 years is definitely ambitious, but we do have multiple existing
> points of comparison:
>
> (1) Lifetime of X.509 trust anchors
>
> e.g. www.iana.org (where the DNSSEC root trust anchor is distributed)
> has a cert that chains up to the DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA which
> is 10 years old and expires 15 years in the future.
>
> (2) Root DNS server IP addresses
>
> 8 of the 13 servers have the same IPv4 address as they had in 1999, which
> is plenty for establishing a quorum of witnesses.
>
> Tony.
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