Moin!

On 17 Dec 2016, at 20:25, David Conrad wrote:

I presume NSEC Aggressive Use will significantly reduce the amount of crap hitting the root servers.
There are other ways of reducing the crap to the root servers (RFC 7706). I don't think NSEC Agressive use will reduce crap a lot as if I remember correctly from Geoff Houstons last presentation still around 80% of the resolver don't use DNSSEC and thus even can't implement NSEC Aggressive use.

However I don't think that the root servers are the problem if the end devices switch to recursing themselves. They are diverse enough and I assume the operators there have ways to increase capacity in a relative short time frame. A lot of the authoritative infrastructure down the tree just isn't ready to take the increase in traffic if we switch to an all endpoints recurse architecture.

I look at a lot of recursive server farms and the cache hit rate there are always >90% and in the mobile space usually >96%. So if we take these numbers that would mean a 10 fold to 25 fold increase of traffic to the authoritative DNS infrastructure and that doesn't even taken into account that a lot of cache hits result of someone else refreshing the cache or keeping it active.

I personally agree with Ted that recursive caches are a good thing and that we are not ready to switch to an end device recurses architecture. Sure there are a couple of Linux boxes out there that recurse themselves or even a couple of CPEs that do that (most though just do forwarding to the ISP resolver), but that is nothing compared to the billions phones or IOT devices on the net.

So long
-Ralf

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