Take activedisplay.org.uk.  The DNS server for this zone has a broken
DNS COOKIE implementation (see the mismatch between the request cookie and
the response cookie).

COOKIE: 5dc8e2253d5f2702 
COOKIE: e0d5650141611e0110474b0003000000dce86501ad361e01

% dig ns1.activedisplay.org.uk @88.208.234.46 +qr

; <<>> DiG 9.15.1 <<>> ns1.activedisplay.org.uk @88.208.234.46 +qr
;; global options: +cmd
;; Sending:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18721
;; flags: rd ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
; COOKIE: 5dc8e2253d5f2702
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ns1.activedisplay.org.uk.      IN      A

;; QUERY SIZE: 65

;; Warning: Client COOKIE mismatch
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18721
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
; COOKIE: e0d5650141611e0110474b0003000000dce86501ad361e01 (bad)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ns1.activedisplay.org.uk.      IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
ns1.activedisplay.org.uk. 86400 IN      A       88.208.234.46

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
activedisplay.org.uk.   86400   IN      NS      ns1.activedisplay.org.uk.
activedisplay.org.uk.   86400   IN      NS      ns2.activedisplay.org.uk.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns2.activedisplay.org.uk. 86400 IN      A       88.208.234.46

;; Query time: 332 msec
;; SERVER: 88.208.234.46#53(88.208.234.46)
;; WHEN: Wed Jul 10 15:31:53 AEST 2019
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 145

% 

Whois is useless

    Domain name:
        activedisplay.org.uk

    Data validation:
        Nominet was able to match the registrant's name and address against a 
3rd party data source on 20-Jun-2015

    Registrar:
        Fasthosts Internet Ltd [Tag = LIVEDOMAINS]
        URL: http://www.fasthosts.co.uk

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 20-Jul-2011
        Expiry date:  20-Jul-2020
        Last updated:  20-Jun-2019

    Registration status:
        Registered until expiry date.

    Name servers:
        ns1.activedisplay.org.uk  88.208.234.46
        ns2.activedisplay.org.uk  88.208.234.46

    WHOIS lookup made at 06:50:41 10-Jul-2019

There is no web site.

The registrar’s web site is useless.

The SOA contact is a Compuserve email address which hasn’t yet bounced.
Time will tell.

Mark

> On 10 Jul 2019, at 1:07 am, Joe Abley <jab...@hopcount.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> On 9 Jul 2019, at 10:36, John Bambenek <j...@bambenekconsulting.com> wrote:
> 
>> If the proposal is to create a standard by which to put contact
>> information into DNS records, what venue would you suggest?
> 
> I think that the protocol aspects of this are the least difficult ones. If 
> this is fundamentally the data governance issue that I think it is, I think 
> it would make a lot more sense to align exactly with what is happening in 
> RDAP, treating self-publication as a new profile and DNS as a possible 
> transport. If there's data to publish, thinking about transport afterwards 
> seems far more sensible than inventing a transport and hoping that the data 
> will follow.
> 
> RDAP profiles are not being discussed in the IETF. I think this is a feature.
> 
>>> I also agree that without any widespread incentive to implement, test and 
>>> maintain, the data is going to be noisy and sparse to the point where it's 
>>> useless for any practical use anyway.
>> 
>> You could say the same for SPF.
> 
> There's an operational incentive to publish SPF records: the need for 
> recipients to accept legitimate mail that is being sent. I don't know what 
> the operational incentive is to publish "whois" data in zone files.
> 
> 
> Joe
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