missed the original here. a couple quick points. the reason the emd hardware is being moved to denver is simply because that is the location of the email service that we acquired and it makes sense to locate the emd hardware in the same physical location as the email hardware. this is simply about providing an efficient service.
next, greg, I cannot imagine what you mean when you describe this as "hidden". we have spoken clearly about our intentions to rationalize since we announced the transaction with critical path in december and we announced this move well in advance of actually doing it. I apologize if this surprised you but in no way did we intend to hide this. lastly, with respect to the privacy issue(s), perhaps the best thing to do is contact me offlist and I am happy to put you in touch with our general counsel to work through any specific issues you might have. I will confess to being confused. the act mentioned is a piece of UK legislation. all countries relevant here, the UK, US and Canada, have legislation that allows access to email in certain proscribed situations. also, Tucows would vigorously defend any attempt to achieve access inappropriately. while I am happy to discuss this in plain view I would suggest that at least until I understand what you are talking about you should go deeper with me offlist and probably with our GC. when it comes to issues such as this there is always room to learn. Regards On Apr 7, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Swerve wrote: > Interesting/disturbing. > > Does this affect opensrs email traffic that does not use email defence? > > Could the person in charge of opensrs email please clarify this whole > issue. > > As a Canadian, i don't want my emails subject to scrutiny by "Inland > security agency". > > josh > > > on 4/6/06 11:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >> Hello all >> I view of the recent discoveries that the email defence data center >> location >> is moving to a United States based facility I wish to start a >> discussion to >> hopefully stop or modify this move. I am not at issue with a move >> simple as to >> where and the fact our clients privacy any confidentiality will now >> be subject >> to breach......... >> The issue is that once this occurs all email that enters that >> facility is now >> subject to viewing by the "Inland security agency" which breaches to >> say at >> minimum several policies of my clients and I'm sure of yours. If your >> clients >> us the email defense service they instantly become subject to the >> same rules >> once the data center is located in the continental US. >> to see the power of that act I have included a link to it >> http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2001/10024--g.htm. >> The fact the move is occurring is posted to tucows web site its >> location is >> below >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> https://rrc.tucows.com/releasenotes/email/emaildefense06 >> New data center The new Email Defense platform will be hosted in the >> Qwest >> data center in Denver Colorado with the recently acquired Hosted Email >> systems. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> This move has never been announced publicly but was rather "hidden " >> and what >> I mean by hidden is. ... never publicly discussed or promoted but >> announced on >> tucows web site and I know of no other place. This is a very large >> very >> important fact that actually makes "most" of my filtering client >> leave the >> service due to fact of its physical location in the United States >> breaches >> there internal policies as I will explain further. >> This move should be of extreme interest to anyone using the email >> defense >> service that is not a United States resident. The number of none US >> residents >> is in all likely hood rather large and I am within that number. >> I must be clear that I have no issue with the abilities or the >> facility or its >> methods or staff . My issue and yours should be around its US >> location and now >> being subject to the US inland security act. The fact that all email >> is now >> routed into the United States and opened to scan. makes the email >> subject to >> the "Inland Security Act" and its rules (not pretending to fully >> understand >> those). >> I will not even start to count the number of ways in which this >> breaches our >> policies and the policies of our clients and I'm sure yours. These >> breaches in >> my clients policies immediately makes this service inadequate for >> their needs >> and they have already told me to find non US based provides or they >> must >> leave. >> The clients have a issue and a well researched issue to say the >> least. We have >> several clients who came to us because our filtering data centers >> were located >> outside the US. >> I in no way am attempting to upset the apple card but this is a issue >> that >> must be addresses quickly were aprox. 60 days or so form the move. I >> have been >> told the location picked due to price well as the new prices for the >> service >> is dropping roughly 50% that is a invalid point. No matter the cost >> or lose >> this must occur and quickly. >> With out a change to this data center location I can see a very large >> out >> fluke of clients as we are now limiting our ability to offer service >> to other >> than US based clients. To mention but a few of the organizations that >> will not >> allow there mail to be opened or scanned in the US and have internal >> policy to >> such are government(local municipal and federal), education, oil >> services, >> oil exploration etc etc. now that is a very large sector of our >> clientele that >> is now affected. >> I step back and hope this start the discussion that brings this move >> to a full >> halt. I have full faith Tucows will step up to this one and make the >> right >> move for all resellers....... >> >> Your respectfully >> Greg Makuch >> Whatever Computes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> domains-gen mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen > > _______________________________________________ > domains-gen mailing list > [email protected] > http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen _______________________________________________ domains-gen mailing list [email protected] http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen
