Tx for commenting, Elliot. >. I >will confess to being confused. the act mentioned is a piece of UK >legislation. all countries relevant here, the UK, US and Canada, have >legislation that allows access to email in certain proscribed >situations. also,
> Tucows would vigorously defend any attempt to achieve >access inappropriately. That's good to hear. I'm wondering about a few things. I'm in Toronto. If i email you in Toronto or someone in Canada, does that email go thru the new facility in the USA, or will it remain within Canadian bandwidth? tx, josh on 4/7/06 10:16 PM, elliot noss at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > missed the original here. a couple quick points. the reason the emd > hardware is being moved to denver is simply because that is the > location of the email service that we acquired and it makes sense to > locate the emd hardware in the same physical location as the email > hardware. this is simply about providing an efficient service. > > next, greg, I cannot imagine what you mean when you describe this as > "hidden". we have spoken clearly about our intentions to rationalize > since we announced the transaction with critical path in december and > we announced this move well in advance of actually doing it. I > apologize if this surprised you but in no way did we intend to hide > this. > > lastly, with respect to the privacy issue(s), perhaps the best thing to > do is contact me offlist and I am happy to put you in touch with our > general counsel to work through any specific issues you might have. I > will confess to being confused. the act mentioned is a piece of UK > legislation. all countries relevant here, the UK, US and Canada, have > legislation that allows access to email in certain proscribed > situations. also, Tucows would vigorously defend any attempt to achieve > access inappropriately. > > while I am happy to discuss this in plain view I would suggest that at > least until I understand what you are talking about you should go > deeper with me offlist and probably with our GC. when it comes to > issues such as this there is always room to learn. > > Regards > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Swerve wrote: > >> Interesting/disturbing. >> >> Does this affect opensrs email traffic that does not use email defence? >> >> Could the person in charge of opensrs email please clarify this whole >> issue. >> >> As a Canadian, i don't want my emails subject to scrutiny by "Inland >> security agency". >> >> josh >> >> >> on 4/6/06 11:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote: >> >>> Hello all >>> I view of the recent discoveries that the email defence data center >>> location >>> is moving to a United States based facility I wish to start a >>> discussion to >>> hopefully stop or modify this move. I am not at issue with a move >>> simple as to >>> where and the fact our clients privacy any confidentiality will now >>> be subject >>> to breach......... >>> The issue is that once this occurs all email that enters that >>> facility is now >>> subject to viewing by the "Inland security agency" which breaches to >>> say at >>> minimum several policies of my clients and I'm sure of yours. If your >>> clients >>> us the email defense service they instantly become subject to the >>> same rules >>> once the data center is located in the continental US. >>> to see the power of that act I have included a link to it >>> http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2001/10024--g.htm. >>> The fact the move is occurring is posted to tucows web site its >>> location is >>> below >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> https://rrc.tucows.com/releasenotes/email/emaildefense06 >>> New data center The new Email Defense platform will be hosted in the >>> Qwest >>> data center in Denver Colorado with the recently acquired Hosted Email >>> systems. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> This move has never been announced publicly but was rather "hidden " >>> and what >>> I mean by hidden is. ... never publicly discussed or promoted but >>> announced on >>> tucows web site and I know of no other place. This is a very large >>> very >>> important fact that actually makes "most" of my filtering client >>> leave the >>> service due to fact of its physical location in the United States >>> breaches >>> there internal policies as I will explain further. >>> This move should be of extreme interest to anyone using the email >>> defense >>> service that is not a United States resident. The number of none US >>> residents >>> is in all likely hood rather large and I am within that number. >>> I must be clear that I have no issue with the abilities or the >>> facility or its >>> methods or staff . My issue and yours should be around its US >>> location and now >>> being subject to the US inland security act. The fact that all email >>> is now >>> routed into the United States and opened to scan. makes the email >>> subject to >>> the "Inland Security Act" and its rules (not pretending to fully >>> understand >>> those). >>> I will not even start to count the number of ways in which this >>> breaches our >>> policies and the policies of our clients and I'm sure yours. These >>> breaches in >>> my clients policies immediately makes this service inadequate for >>> their needs >>> and they have already told me to find non US based provides or they >>> must >>> leave. >>> The clients have a issue and a well researched issue to say the >>> least. We have >>> several clients who came to us because our filtering data centers >>> were located >>> outside the US. >>> I in no way am attempting to upset the apple card but this is a issue >>> that >>> must be addresses quickly were aprox. 60 days or so form the move. I >>> have been >>> told the location picked due to price well as the new prices for the >>> service >>> is dropping roughly 50% that is a invalid point. No matter the cost >>> or lose >>> this must occur and quickly. >>> With out a change to this data center location I can see a very large >>> out >>> fluke of clients as we are now limiting our ability to offer service >>> to other >>> than US based clients. To mention but a few of the organizations that >>> will not >>> allow there mail to be opened or scanned in the US and have internal >>> policy to >>> such are government(local municipal and federal), education, oil >>> services, >>> oil exploration etc etc. now that is a very large sector of our >>> clientele that >>> is now affected. >>> I step back and hope this start the discussion that brings this move >>> to a full >>> halt. I have full faith Tucows will step up to this one and make the >>> right >>> move for all resellers....... >>> >>> Your respectfully >>> Greg Makuch >>> Whatever Computes >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> domains-gen mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> domains-gen mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen > > _______________________________________________ > domains-gen mailing list > [email protected] > http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen _______________________________________________ domains-gen mailing list [email protected] http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen
