> Okay, perhaps we aren't the target market for the service, perhaps we 
> should
> run it all though the new client interface.

nah. the interface does suck. the WHOLE thing is being re-done but 
there is a lot of plumbing that needs to change before you will see it. 
these comments will all end up in the right hands.

Regards

On May 22, 2006, at 5:24 AM, Simon Waters wrote:

> On Friday 19 May 2006 21:41, elliot noss wrote:
>> geotrust has talked with us. verisign has not at this point, nor can
>> they before closing.
>>
>> two comments. first, I would imagine that verisign is quite aware of
>> what you describe and felt the pain as a large portion of the
>> business swung from thawte to geotrust through us. I would view this
>> transaction as some form of mea culpa (or at least thea culpa to
>> bastardize a dead language!).
>>
>> second, to the extent that you do certs business and this is an issue
>> for you, we want to know about it. send your comments to
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> We don't do a whole lot of certificates, but the biggest issue for us 
> by far
> is your web interface for this. It just sucks.
>
> My task "check on an order I placed with a view to either modifying it 
> or
> placing similar (if all else fails)."
>
> Login - presented with a choice of two searches on the first page 
> "Order
> Items" or "Services Sold" (Okay I know the difference, but do I really 
> need
> the second one presented at all?).
>
> The search certificate order item, has a zillion search fields I don't 
> care
> about, all the date fields are pre-populated so I have to check if 
> they cover
> the period of interest. When I do the search the order item of 
> interest isn't
> returned (Okay this seems to be a particular order, and a support 
> request is
> in, but still it has failed to do the job).
>
> I eventually track down the order item, and view it, to get a screen 
> that
> doesn't tell me anything more than the search results had.
>
> I can randomly send my contacts for certificates an email with their 
> password,
> and all they can do it seems is "change their password".
>
> A search for everything (barely more than a handful of items takes long
> enough, that either the tables aren't indexed on relevant fields, or 
> you have
> so much money by now you won't care anyway ;-).
>
> Order management has a lot of drop downs, for which I only get one 
> choice, but
> does it default to the single choice?
>
> And as noted before the help pages are completely borked.
>
> Okay, perhaps we aren't the target market for the service, perhaps we 
> should
> run it all though the new client interface. But we only use your 
> service for
> certificates, because we have an account already in place, and it 
> simplifies
> our lives (when it works, and it goes through in a straight forward 
> fashion).
>
> We are no fans of Verisign here either. All we care about a 
> certificate is the
> authority is pretrusted by the IE and Firefox, so the ultimate end 
> users
> don't get scary warning boxes.
>
> A provider who also uses vaguely secure algorithms, and maintains a 
> network
> architecture where certificates can be meaningfully revoked would be a 
> bonus,
> but I'm jaundiced enough about the topic for this not to be an absolute
> requirement.
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