Garey, I also have a tr4-C that the relay holds in transmit. I have done all the things you recommended. I did notice one thing. The neg bias on the 6ev7 on the relay control side is -3.7 volts when it is in receive. But when you increase the audio gain, the bias goes to -6.8 volts. Is this normal ? Sincerely, Boyd W0BUW
Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garey Barrell made an utterance to the drakelist gang ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill - Bias voltage is relied on to open the relay by cutting off the 6EV7 relay tube and if that voltage is low because of leaky electrolytics or ripple in the Bias supply in the AC-3/4., the tube doesn't cut off as quickly. Since you have eliminated the supply, another possibility is that the 6EV7 is slightly gassy, which again causes tube to want to continue conducting after it is told to cut off, especially after long transmissions! Yet another possibility is that the final tubes are dropping in emission, which requires you to set the bias voltage more positive to set the idle current to the proper value, again resulting in reduced negative voltage to cut off the 6EV7. Lastly, there are several very high value carbon composition resistors in the biasing for the VOX. ANTI-VOX and Relay circuits that can increase in value with age, resulting in insufficient cut off bias for the 6EV7. A rule de thumb is that the bias voltage at the Final grids is typically -60 to -65VDC for nominal idle current. Let us know what you find! 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs Bill Ellis wrote: > Recently having put my T-4XB/R-4B combo back on the air after 1 year > off, I'm finding that when I put the T-4XB in spot mode, I can't get > the relay to return to the receive mode. This is not keying the > finals(I don't think), it just seems to hang up in the spot mode. > About 3-4 years ago, I had rebuilt the AC-4(cap's and all), so I don't > think that is the problem. Now I know the the anti-vox and vox delay > affect how long the relay remains engaged.I have tried that > combination with no success. I could just be getting the wrong combo. > My question is where is a good starting point for these two controls. > Also, could this be a bad 6EV7? > > Thanks for any help & 73's > > Bill, WB9CAC > Tempe, Az ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------