The second half of the first paragraph controdics with the first.  There
are patches and the like avalible.

The second sentance is refering to the hotplug code, only needed for multi
cards(currently not suported)?  Or did you mean something else.

Your right about adding interfaces into the kernel, but what's
proposed(the non hotplug stuff) is small and relitively uninteresting
since it's not used by X.  There are no currently pkged programs that
would use these extentions so there is nothing stoping a rewrite b4 the
user part is released.

--- Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 12:35 -0700, Jon Smirl wrote:
> > 
> > 2) copy of the user space code from XFree86 into a standalone library
> - now you
> > have to be root to play with the chip.
> > 3) Add a couple of IOCTLs to DRM to support modes/cursors. Do as much
> of the
> > work as possible in user space and just pass final register values to
> the
> > IOCTLs.
> > 
> > I would like to see #3. I have implemented #3 locally for the radeon
> but there
> > is no acceptance for adding it to main DRM drivers.
> 
> Of course, you neglect to mention the reasons for that. For one, you
> haven't presented an interface yet that you have shown to remove the
> need to be root and a significant amount of code from the kernel at the
> same time. Obviously, immature solutions can't go into the DRM trunk and
> consequently the kernel because if they don't work out, they can become
> maintenance nightmares. You have repeatedly been encouraged to develop a
> prototype system on branches or separate trees though. Don't wait for
> everyone else to drop everything else.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Earthling Michel Dänzer      |     Debian (powerpc), X and DRI
> developer
> Libre software enthusiast    |   http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer
> 
> 
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