Okay, one of the things I was concerned about was if the ant of maven
processes were doing something else important with the info in
dspace.cfg, like processing some other file somewhere with that info.
It sounds like the consensus on that one is that it is not happening.

Regarding whether or not to keep dspace.cfg in the source and install
dirs in sync with each other or not appears to just be a matter of
taste at this point.

-glenn

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Thornton, Susan M.
(LARC-B702)[LITES] <susan.m.thorn...@nasa.gov> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Little [mailto:lit...@cs.ucsd.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:13 PM
> To: Brian Freels-Stendel
> Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] modifying config dspace.cfg
>
>
>
> Wow.. okay... complex but makes sense given the whole
>
> dspace/java/tomcat context I guess.  The thing that seems weird to me
>
> now is the "mvn package" command, which takes a while to run and seems
>
> to rebuild all the apps.  Is that really necessary, just to make a
>
> quick change in a config file?
>
>
>
> Glenn - this is why, if I’m just making a change to the dspace.cfg file, I
> edit the one under /dspace/config (my installation directory) because I then
> don’t have to rebuild the app (with mvn package) - I only have to restart my
> web server.  In fact, once I do the “ant fresh_install” during the initial
> dspace implementation, I *never* touch
> {dspace-source}/dspace/config/dspace.cfg again.  I will occasionally refer
> back to it if I need to look at how I initially set a property or something.
>
> Sue
>
>
>
> (I'm trying to stay with the program
>
> and not just edit the runtime file by hand).  Does it actually do
>
> something different in the build based on the new config values, and
>
> should I actually reinstall all the applications ("ant fresh_install")
>
> not just the config files?   I think I need a new supply of advil...
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> -glenn
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Brian Freels-Stendel <bfre...@unm.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Morning,
>
>>
>
>> I'll give it a try, since I had the same conceptual problems with the
>> process.
>
>>
>
>> Editing the [dspace-source]/dspace/config/dspace.cfg file has the benefit
>> of keeping everything in sync:  you'll never make the mistake of moving the
>> source to a new machine and leaving behind customizations that you've made
>> to the other copies.
>
>>
>
>> Assuming you only edit [dspace-source]/dspace/config/dspace.cfg, then you
>> have to run 'mvn package' to get the updated dspace.cfg into the
>> .../target/build-dir/... tree, which is the place ant works.
>
>>
>
>> running 'ant update_configs' puts copies of any updated config files into
>> the [dspace] (live) directory; but if you want to be able to use them with a
>> simple Tomcat reboot, you need to tell ant to make the new copies the ones
>> Tomcat will use.  You do that with the -Doverwrite=true option, so:  'ant
>> -Doverwrite=true update_configs'.  (At the same time, ant will copy the old
>> config files with a '.[date]' extension (in the [dspace]/config directory.)
>>  Otherwise, ant writes those new config files to the [dspace]/config
>> directory with (I believe) a '.new' extension and you have to manually
>> remove that extension (and rename the old config files -- the ones you want
>> retired) to something else, or delete them.
>
>>
>
>> 'ant -Dconfig=[dspace]/config/dspace.cfg' =>  You'd need to have an actual
>> command, such as update_configs or update_code for it to do anything.  It
>> would be of use if you were editing other code (perhaps a .java file) in the
>> source, but do not use the source dspace.cfg file.  In this case, you'd
>> still need to use maven to get the altered code into the ...target...
>> directory so that ant  can put it where it belongs.
>
>>
>
>> I hope this helps, and that I haven't misrepresented anything....
>
>>
>
>> B--
>
>>
>
>>>>> On 2/9/2011 at 11:46 AM, in message
>
>> <aanlktinnwcudpxj-ai0fu57q41y7+mrs5zna1x52k...@mail.gmail.com>, Glenn
>> Little
>
>> <lit...@cs.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
>>> Okay, I'm really confused now.  These two replies are *both* different
>
>>> from the (itself confusing) description at:
>
>>>
>
>>>
>>> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSDOC/Configuration#Configuration-UpdateRe
>
>>> minder
>
>>>
>
>>> The above page does not mention running mvn at all.  Where does that
>
>>> come from?  The above page also explicitly recommends not just editing
>
>>> the runtime config file.
>
>>>
>
>>> What's confusing about that page itself is that it first says,
>
>>> essentially, to edit [dspace-source]/dspace/config/dspace.cfg, then cd
>
>>> to the target/dspace-<version>-build.dir and run "ant update_configs.
>
>>>
>
>>> But then it goes on with to suggest running either (or both?) of "ant
>
>>> -Dconfig=[dspace]/config/dspace.cfg", and "ant init_configs".  I'm
>
>>> having trouble really understand the conditions under which you would
>
>>> run one or the other of those, and how those tie in with the initial
>
>>> "ant update_configs".  Let alone how those all tie in with the two
>
>>> suggestions given previously in this thread.
>
>>>
>
>>> Can anyone help unconfuse me?
>
>>>
>
>>> Thanks!
>
>>>
>
>>> -glenn
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Thornton, Susan M. (LARC-B702)[LITES]
>
>>> <susan.m.thorn...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>>>> Here is the process I follow and never have any problems.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> During the initial install/implementation of your DSpace instance, you
>>>> will
>
>>> make your changes to dspace.cfg in {dspace-source}/dspace/config.  Then
>>> once
>
>>> you do a "fresh-install", your /dspace directory is populated with all
>>> other
>
>>> sub-directories like /bin  /config   /etc   /lib  /webapps, etc.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> From this point on, the place to make your changes to dspace.cfg is in
>>>> your
>
>>> dspace installation directory, NOT the source directory.  If you do not
>>> make
>
>>> your changes in /dspace/config/dspace.cfg, your changes will not be
>>> picked
>
>>> up.  Also remember that you have to stop and start your web server before
>
>>> these changes will be picked up too.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Hope this helps,
>
>>>> Sue
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Sue Walker-Thornton
>
>>>> Software Developer/Database Administrator
>
>>>> NASA Langley Research Center|LITES Contract
>
>>>> (757) 224-4074
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>> From: amutsikiwa [mailto:amutsik...@uzlib.uz.ac.zw]
>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:25 AM
>
>>>> To: 'Glenn Little'; dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] modifying config dspace.cfg
>
>>>>
>
>>>> After making changes  to [dspace-source]/dspace/config/dspace.cfg,
>>>> change
>
>>>> directory to [dspace-source]/dspace/ and  then run
>
>>>>     mvn -e -o packages
>
>>>> Then  change directory to
>
>>>>  [dspace-source]/dspace/target/dspace-1.7.0-build.dir
>
>>>>  And run
>
>>>>  ant -Doverwrite=true update clean_backups
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>> The changes should be effected.
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Regards,
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Admire Mutsikiwa
>
>>>> University of Zimbabwe
>
>>>>
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>> From: Glenn Little [mailto:lit...@cs.ucsd.edu]
>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:00 AM
>
>>>> To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
>
>>>> Subject: [Dspace-tech] modifying config dspace.cfg
>
>>>>
>
>>>> I've got an install of dspace and am now trying to modify the
>
>>>> dspace.cfg file.  But I'm confused as to which file to edit.  I
>
>>>> thought I was supposed to do this:
>
>>>>
>
>>>> + edit [dspace-source]/dspace/config/dspace.cfg
>
>>>>
>
>>>> + change dir to [dspace-source]/dspace/target/dspace-1.7.0-build.dir
>
>>>>
>
>>>> + ant update_configs
>
>>>>
>
>>>> The problem is that this does not do anything with my new changes.
>
>>>> Instead it puts an old copy of my dspace.cfg file over into
>
>>>> [dspace]/config/dspace.cfg.new.  As far as I can tell, that *old* copy
>
>>>> comes from:
>
>>>>
>
>>>>  [dspace-source]/dspace/target/dspace-1.7.0-build.dir/config/dspace.cfg
>
>>>>
>
>>>> So what is the real intent of the copy in dspace-<version>-build.dir
>
>>>> compared to the one higher up in the source tree?  How is one *really*
>
>>>> supposed to update the configuration, post-install?
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Thanks...
>
>>>>
>
>>>> -glenn
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
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