Hi Mike

Just to confirm: 

* EThOS does expect *only* theses to be exposed using uketd_dc via OAI-PMH
* '1. Filtering and Metadata Format tied' is the preferred solution in this 
instance

Cheers
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael White [mailto:michael.wh...@stir.ac.uk] 
Sent: 30 October 2013 13:50
To: João Melo
Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] DSpace v3 and uketd_dc OAI?

> Because, there are 2 possible solutions, and the solution depends on 
> what makes sense :)

Many thanks for these pointers, that's really helpful, and all makes sense (on 
first reading anyway) ;-) 

My first though is that the first approach is probably what we want in this 
instance, so I take a look at the example and see how far I get!

Thanks again, much appreciated.

Mike

Michael White
eLearning Liaison and Development (eLD)
Information Services
S8, Library
University of Stirling
Stirling SCOTLAND
FK9 4LA
Email: michael.wh...@stir.ac.uk
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From: João Melo [mailto:jm...@lyncode.com]
Sent: 30 October 2013 13:44
To: Michael White
Cc: heli...@centrum.sk; dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] DSpace v3 and uketd_dc OAI?

Because, there are 2 possible solutions, and the solution depends on what makes 
sense :) - yeh! It makes sense to make sense.

1. Filtering and Metadata Format tied

This solution associates to the Format definition a Filter, so then, for this 
specific Schema/Format, only a subset of items would be shown.
You may want to look at the following example.

https://gist.github.com/lyncodev/7232812

Basically, it specifies a Filter within the Format, so then you could query the 
OAI interface with something like:

http://<hostname>:<port>/oai/request?verb=ListRecords&metadataPrefix=uketd_dc

2. Filtering and Metadata Format decoupled

This solution decouples the Item Selection phase from the Formatting phase.
It requires a 2 steps:

1 - Configure one specific set (or context) to select only Thesis items.
2 - Modify the uketd_dc format accordingly.

So then it would be possible to query the OAI interface for thesis items using 
that format. Something like: 
http://<hostname>:<port>/oai/request?verb=ListRecords&set=thesis&metadataPrefix=uketd_dc

On 30 October 2013 13:07, João Melo <jm...@lyncode.com> wrote:
Hi Michael,

My understanding is that this is in dc.type - I'm currently liaising with a 
number of other DSpace users that participate in the EThOS service (the primary 
consumers of uketd_dc metadata) as there may well be more than one value - I'm 
hoping though that all the different variations will, at the very least, all 
contain the word "Thesis", so my first question is to ask if you know if it is 
possible to use pattern matching to carry out the filtering in xoai.xsl? I am 
intending to investigate this further, I just haven't got to it yet, but if 
anyone knows the answer it would be helpful at this stage!

Just a simple question. Makes sense to use uketd_dc schema for non-thesis types?


On 30 October 2013 11:51, Michael White <michael.wh...@stir.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi,

> Please, file a new Jira issue for this:
With apologies for the delay getting around to it, but I have now done this: 
https://jira.duraspace.org/i#browse/DS-1740 - this is my first time adding a 
JIRA ticket, so I hope everything is OK, but feel free to let me know or change 
anything if not :-)

> > > - the output is not limited to only "Theses"
>
> What metadata field and value(s) in DSpace specifies that the item is a 
> thesis?
My understanding is that this is in dc.type - I'm currently liaising with a 
number of other DSpace users that participate in the EThOS service (the primary 
consumers of uketd_dc metadata) as there may well be more than one value - I'm 
hoping though that all the different variations will, at the very least, all 
contain the word "Thesis", so my first question is to ask if you know if it is 
possible to use pattern matching to carry out the filtering in xoai.xsl? I am 
intending to investigate this further, I just haven't got to it yet, but if 
anyone knows the answer it would be helpful at this stage!

In terms of dc.type - I've also noted an issue with this attribute - it looks 
to me like any dc.type or dc.type.* attributes are being concatenated into a 
single dc.type attribute before the data reaches the uketd_dc crosswalk (? 
Please correct me if I'm wrong!)  - I don't think this behaviour is correct in 
uketd_dc as there are a couple of qualified dc.type attributes that are mapped 
to their own uketd_dc elements, so I'm hoping that it will be possible to 
prevent this behaviour when generating uketd_dc OAI metadata (again, not had a 
chance to look myself yet, but will!)?

> Please, provide the mapping of DSpace fields to uketd_dc fields (this 
> will be an update to uketd_dc.xsl).
I am currently working on this specification, which is nearly complete, and 
liaising with other institutions to ensure that the specified mapping is as 
generic as possible and so will work for the majority of institutions "out of 
the box" - alongside this I'm also creating a uketd_dc.xsl crosswalk that 
implements that specification, and, once complete, hopefully the folk from 
EThOS will be able to validate the output for us.

I'm hoping that all this will only take a couple of weeks to sort out (other 
work commitments allowing), but that may, of course, be a bit optimistic :-)

I hope that covers where I'm currently at and what I'm hoping to achieve, but 
of course, if anyone has any questions, comments, or concerns (or any pointers 
for any of the issues noted above), or if you are interested in participating 
in the specification/testing of this crosswalk (and haven't been in touch so 
far), then please don't hesitate to get back to me.

Regards,

Mike


Michael White
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Information Services
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University of Stirling
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DSpace Department
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