I guess I just can not live with the "robotic" sound. This is unacceptable in 
this world of technology.
I am trying to find away around this before I dump the whole D-Star thing.
John
PS: I also have a 91AD

--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Tony Langdon <vk3...@...> wrote:
>
> At 05:05 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote:
> 
> 
> >John,
> >
> >Try plugging a better quality speaker into the radio.
> >I personally find this does wonders to increase fidelity.
> >Icom should be ashamed of the speakers in the D-Star HT's.
> 
> A better quality speaker certainly works, as anyone who's listened to 
> a DV Dongle on PC speakers can attest to.  Actually, I find the 
> quality of the audio of my 91AD is very good (for a HT), only 
> complaint is there's not enough of it for some environments.
> 
> As for the "robotic" sound, well, we're stuck with it.  The whole 
> point of speech codecs is to literally throw away anything that's not 
> directly contributing to intelligibility, to reduce the 
> bitrate.  There is a tradeoff here between bitrate and 
> fidelity.  AMBE is designed to achieve very low bitrates, so it's not 
> going to sound very "natural".
> 
> My own view of D-STAR audio is that while it doesn't sound natural, I 
> find it very intelligible, often more so than FM in the real world 
> (where there's a lot of poorly adjusted radios and radios with wonky 
> audio response).  I'm also able to recognise who is speaking, so 
> enough of the voice is preserved to allow that.  The AMBE vocoder 
> excels at what it sets out to do in my opinion - provide 
> communications grade speech at very low bitrates.
> >
> >I'm not sure, but there also may be something else going on as well.
> >If I set up my 80 or 880 and connect to a reflector and do the same 
> >with the ID-1 using the same speaker, the fidelity improves big time 
> >with the 80 and 880 but the ID-1 still sounds much better (and the 
> >RF signal is much weaker).
> 
> Different radios will have different audio responses.  RF signal 
> strength is largely irrelevant in D-STAR, until the bit error rate 
> starts to increase significantly to the point that the FEC has 
> trouble correcting those errors.
> 
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
>


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