At 3:12 PM +0100 10/31/99, Holger Marseille wrote:
>Hello Tim,
>
>can you tell me on which board the PMU is located.
>Since my 2400 has the same symptoms and I could have access to another
>2400 for exchanging parts temporarily, I would like to exchange this
>specific board, just to see, if the rest of my machine is working
>properly.

I think the PMU is located on the main logic board (it's the largest 
board in the machine).  The only other board it could be on is the 
I/O / power board which has all the rear panel port connectors.

If you have a solid green sleep light, the PMU is probably alive, but 
it may have corrupted RAM contents or some such thing.  The challenge 
is to reset it, and that can be quite difficult.

>By the way, I tried all this resetting business in all possible
>combinations, but to no success...

Did you try it a lot?  It took me more than 20 tries at resetting the 
PMU to get my 2400 alive once.  (Where each try consisted of holding 
the reset button in continuously for 20 seconds or more... sigh.)

>Also in other posts people hinted that even after having their 2400
>repaired the problems came back. Is this an engineering flaw ?

It's hard for me to tell what the problems people are having really 
are.  I *suspect* a lot of the "dead 2400" problems are solvable by 
resetting the PMU.  But since the symptoms look like a totally dead 
machine to most people, it usually goes to a repair shop.

You could regard the PMU's control program as an engineering flaw.  I 
know that a lot of people at Apple groan every time they're doing a 
new machine and management decides not to completely redo the PMU 
because there isn't enough time or budget.  The PMU chip and the 
program it runs has been more or less the same since the original 
PowerBooks; they do slight changes for each new computer to support 
new features but most of it stays the same.  Some models are known 
for having flakier than average PMU code, and generally the 2400/3400 
is considered to be about the worst.  (The 2400 and 3400's electrical 
design and software are virtually identical.)


 From all the abuse I've put my personal 2400 through, I have to say 
that I'm impressed with its reliability.  I have one bad PCMCIA slot, 
but I'm very sure I caused that myself while trying to experiment 
with activating CardBus support.  (I think I damaged the connector on 
the motherboard which the card cage plugs in to.)  Fortunately I only 
need one slot, so I can live with it.  Other than that, everything 
has survived, even though I must have taken my machine apart and put 
it back together at least twenty times by now while trying to play 
with various things.  I've not even been following good static 
discharge precautions.


   Tim Seufert
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