It appears to be a case of whose ox is being gored. For those of us who have been long time active dxers and want to be recognized for what we have accomplished over the years, the overall total including currently deleted, but not deleted at the time we worked them, is valid. We have looked for years longingly at the numbers represented by gentlemen far beyond our years who have worked stations that we had no opportunity to work, with the understanding that at some point in the future, we too will have this opportunity to be recognized.
Now, the newly licensed and those who didn't have the ambition or desire to work for the long term want it NOW NOW NOW. If you want to use stupid analogies like the Yankees, I'll present one just as stupid. Let's assume you want to be a doctor but dislike the thought of it having to spend all those years of preparation. Your solution would be to just give the certification to anyone who can pass the test or has the money to pay anyone who has a friend who took the test and has a copy that you can study. Fortunately it doesn't work that way...........yet. When it does, it is my hope that people who want it NOW NOW NOW have the opportunity to have these people for their physician. Since it is my ox that is being gored, I waited and didn't scream NOW NOW NOW for all these years, and my NOW is finally becoming reality. Let us who have spent the years working at our count enjoy our DXCC count including deleted while we can just as those in the past have. Red K0LUZ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXCC Listings A current total for everyone one on the DXCC lists has to be known otherwise the asterisk could not be printed. The data is the all there. It's a matter of which way it's cut. One is a deference to longevity (absolute total), the other to competition with recognition of long term accomplishment (current total sort with a slash absolute #). Neither cut says anything about a super station, QRP, or whether you worked a bunch of tough ones on 160 from one side of the country and then moved to the other side and worked a bunch more. Or whether or not you've even had a station for the last ten years but your buddy throws your call into all the pile ups and that keeps you on the Honor Roll. Only you know that and to first order, no one cares. I'm certain that there are DXers out there who have Honor Roll achievement but who've never submitted cards. They really don't care! They do it strictly for themselves. My point is simple: If there is a listing, it should be useful and not primarily a celebration of age. The present listing scheme is antiquated. It would be like listing baseball standings after the World Series with the Yankees always at the top because they've won more than any other team. Come to think of it, wouldn't that be a great enticement for youngsters to get interested?! 73, Steve WB6RSE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org