> Silly stuff Danny!

I already get used to being called silly simply because I suggest improvement to
e-gold security, and criticise these simple turing numbers.


So, ok, try this little program written in Visual Basic (  I am only a Sunday
afternoon programmer, so it took me a couple of hours what others can probably do
in much shorter time).
www.fourpillars.net/finance/turingdecoder.zip

Is this enough to claim the $100 prize, or need I prove that the ouput of this
little program (only few hundred lines as you can in the source code) can easily
be transformed into asci text using a basic ocr program?

If you want I'll add some code tomorrow that gives you asci text directly (quite
easy because I only need compare the six small images with the 9 prototypes for
each digit, even without an ocr program I'll get over 90% succes rate..)



> You must be joking --- you think line removal is a trivial subject?
>
> Write a routine and try it - see how well it handles not chopping up
> the subject matter.
>
> Even on the most trivial situation, 1 bit images, which Jay presents
> us with, it is a full-on heuristics problem that would demand a
> substantial rule based approach -- you'd need to program in maybe a
> half dozen ad hoc rules to circumvent common problems, and get a
> reasonable result.


I am sorry to tell you that it took no more than a few lines of code to throw out
the lines.
That's what you see in the first few pictures.


> >  and I quadrupled the size of the image.
> >Then I brought the 6 digits all on the same level, that is also not
> >difficult to
> >program.
>
> Nonsense - its very difficult indeed.  To begin with, it implicitly
> means understanding where the objects are -- again, lots of
> heuristical ad hoc programming to circumvent common problems like
> touching digits, which Jay includes.


Again this was easier than I thought. A little more work, but it was quite easy
and straightforward.
Even the touching digits did not prove much of a problem (a few examples are
included nr5 and 8)

The program puts out six same size pictures for each of the 6 digits. These can
very easily be recognised with ocr.


Believe me, if I can do it...  I don't know anything about C or other advanced
programming, I am only using a learning version of VB.


So, this version of turing numbers is totally worthless, as my program shows.
You could probably improve upon them. You can try with colors but that may trouble
some people with color blindness.
More difference in the size of the digits would make it more difficult to split
touching digits, but certainly not prevent it.
You can try to add lines more than one pixel wide but that may create trouble to
keep the numbers readable.
Basically you will need much bigger turing images to make them any worthwile.


All the best,

Danny

The $100 can go here:-)
http://two-cents-worth.com/?102468&EG



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