But who are the consumers? I'ld argue society is the consumer, the students are the product, the faculty are the assembly line folks, and the admin are the sellers.
Malcolm On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Eric Enrique Flores De Gracia <sail...@gmail.com> wrote: > A good source of information could come from the "consumers" rather than the > "sellers". So a good source for digging into it should be the national or > regional education assessments. This of course is a "country" sensitive > issue, and whether or not such assessments exist is a matter. > >From my personal experience I will add "flexibility", as one required item > in a good program, or perhaps a more comprehensive word would be > "adaptation", because all the wonderful items listed by Malcolm, will be > really booster if adaptation to the external environment (e.g. changing > tendencies, discoveries and needs) is ensured. > > Perhaps my views are too generalists, but are based on my experience from > Latin America. > > Eric > > > 2010/11/12 Aimee Phillippi <aphilli...@unity.edu> > >> Being at a school that is currently revising its biology program, I'm >> interested in folks' opinions on this. I'm especially interested in >> perspectives on Malcolm's first list item. Specifically, what coursework >> and/or curricular experiences have people seen that best prepare students >> for moving into "good" biology-related jobs. >> ________________________________________ >> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [ >> ecolo...@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of malcolm McCallum [ >> malcolm.mccal...@herpconbio.org] >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:16 PM >> To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU >> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] what makes a biology program good? >> >> I didn't really have anything specific in mind regarding what you >> listed. In fact, though most general bio programs are divided up in >> tracts of the programs you listed. I guess I wasn't really looking at >> specialized programs when I posed the question but graduate or >> undergraduate, generalized or specialized should not really matter all >> that much. >> >> I hear all of the time people say "That school has a good program" or >> "that school's program is weak." >> But really, what makes it good vs weak? >> >> I felt it basically boiled down to the following, but wanted to see if >> others had different or refined views: >> >> 1) Coursework is sufficiently rigorous for students to move on into >> good jobs or postgraduate study. >> 2) students leaving the program succeed in later pursuits. >> 3) faculty are trained in the subjects they teach >> 4) courses have sufficient facilities and resources to be effective >> 5) courses from other disciplines (chemistry/physics/math, &c) provide >> suffienct depth for biologists. >> >> This is just off the top of my head and pretty open-ended. >> >> Malcolm >> > > > > -- > Eric Flores De G. > > """""""NO EXCUSES...EXECUTE""""" > -- Malcolm L. McCallum Managing Editor, Herpetological Conservation and Biology "Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - Allan Nation 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea" W.S. Gilbert 1990's: Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss, and pollution. 2000: Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction MAY help restore populations. 2022: Soylent Green is People! Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
