To All:
William J. Kammerer is correct on all companies should use
EAN/UCC-14 product ID as a model. Anyone in the retail industry knows that
they are required to have their UPC 14 chars long to coincide with the
EAN/UCC-14 product ID. The only reason this has not taken place is the
scanners are not capable. I believe by 2002 all retail scanners must except
14 chars.
Paul Jandron
617-899-6113
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.squidtech.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "William J. Kammerer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: What standards exist for Manufacturer Part number
> Kurt Smith, of Egghead.com, receives a Manufacturer Part Number in the
> LIN segment of a 004010 832 Price Catalog transaction. The
> Product/Service ID, D.E. 234, where the Manufacturer Part Number would
> be placed, has a maximum length of 48 bytes. Kurt would like to have the
> application allow for 48 but this may be a challenge. He asks "[Are
> there] general or industry specific standard or does someone have
> experience with the maximum I could expect?"
>
> Dear Kurt:
>
> As Doug Anderson, of Kleinschmidt Inc., pointed out, the maximum length
> of the X12 Product/Service ID serves no real use as a guide to a
> practical length for a Manufacturer Part Number. The Product/Service ID
> element has to accommodate any number of different Product or Service
> descriptions qualified by the Product/Service ID Qualifier in the
> preceding D.E. 235 - including free text.
>
> Erlend Nagel, of DHL, maintained that the roughly equivalent EDIFACT
> D.E. 7140 (Item number) is only 35 characters. Erlend indignantly
> maintains that "...if this is a workable limit internationally it would
> be adequate to have this in your application as well." Doug, a patriot
> who nonetheless has lost sight of the original question, rebuffed
> Erlend: "...what may be valid in UN/EDIFACT may not be adequate for
> users of other standards in other countries." Insisting on having the
> last word, Doug continues "By the way, just to start a war, X12 is an
> international standard, used cross many borders and in many other
> countries other than the US." Yeah, Doug, like two - maybe?
>
> But anyway, the only reason the Product/Service ID is longer than the
> EDIFACT data element 7140 is 1) Americans have bigger egos and mouths,
> and 2) EDIFACT used to have a design rule by which elements were quite
> anally assigned lengths of either 17, 35 or 70 characters - see Message
> Design Rules for EDI, TRADE/CEFACT/1999/3, at http://www.edifact-wg.org/
> under "Documents."
>
> Instead, I recommend that you take a look at the EAN/UCC-14 product ID
> as a model. As a matter of fact, RosettaNet has adopted the EAN/UCC-14
> product ID, otherwise known as a Global Trade Item Number or GTIN: "The
> GTIN is the EAN/UCC system standard for product identification. It is
> the most broadly implemented standard in the world. Globally, the pool
> of numbers is extremely large and carefully managed. A GTIN is a
> globally unique 14-digit number assigned to each packaging level of a
> product or service...Company databases should reflect current internal
> part numbers and GTINs as a 14-digit numbers." See RosettaNet's GTIN
> FAQs at http://www.rosettanet.org/ - under Site Sections, see
> "Standards," then under "Related Sections" see "Technical FAQs."
>
> William J. Kammerer
> FORESIGHT Corp.
> 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> +1 614 791-1600
>
> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
> "Commerce for a New World"
>
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