The saddest bit of it all is that while the standards support a standards update transaction(868) for trading partners. The bulk of the vendors(Sterling, Innovis, CommerceRoute, Spedi, GSX) do not support the transaction set fully enough to update the standard on the map you are running. I have yet to find a Translator vendor that fully supports this ANSI Code set with regards to ANSI's own updateable Standard sets. If translation software companies would actually work on allowing this transaction and supporting it with in their applications, my guess is that in the right hands little or know purchasing of standards or even implemetation guides would be taking place. Unfortunately, Those that rely on the standards have a view that only focuses on KEEPING THEIR BUSINESS RUNNING rather than offering some trully open standard that would allow for a real open exchange of information. I guess when I look at it I would rather complain about noncompliant vendors than try and complain about the cost of standards. Especially when the standards have provided a FREE way to independently update standards transaction sets for atleast 5 years and Vendors have not gotten on board. Besides, the standards costs are in line with most major professional reference documents. Just my two cents, John
"William J. Kammerer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Earl, the price they are asking for gas at the pump is totally absurd; should you fill up and make a run for it, then? The price they are asking for music CDs is totally absurd; should the old Napster be resurrected? The price they are asking for pharmaceuticals is totally absurd; these things are simple enough to manufacture once you have the formula - should a generic manufacturer sell them before the patent runs out without first obtaining a license? The price they are asking for Windows XP and Office 2003 is totally absurd; wouldn't it make more sense to buy a CD with the software from a street vendor? Having said that, there could be an argument made for X12 to give away the standards if it had a different business model. But X12 hasn't done that, yet. So in the meantime, you have to buy the book, the CD, or properly licensed software with the standards embedded within. Besides, it's extremely likely that the "ordinary" EDI user could make do without the X12 materials, as you'll rarely be called on to build EDI messages entirely from scratch. Your larger trading partner will generally supply EDI implementation guides that you can map from. Or industry groups often provide their guides for free or nominal cost. William J. Kammerer Novannet, LLC. Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA +1 (614) 487-0320 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earl Wertheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Doug Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 21 October, 2004 02:40 PM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Re: Format of DISA standards CD Doug > The simple answer is that the v5 data is equivalent to one and only one version > of the X12 standard. If Diana requires a different version, or multiple > versions, the CD is the way to go. I understand that BUT: The price they are asking is totally absurd. They should put the specs on the Internet and make it a free download. Earl Wertheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spe-edi.com . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/OIFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
