The beauty of EDIFACT standards is not only that guidelines are easy to find on the web and the UN/EDIFACT site, but they're free. For all versions.
Emmanuel Hadzipetros SAP EDI Consultant Check out my website at: http://sap-idoc2edi-consulting.com/ Read my blog at: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/sap/ehadzipetros From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse Sightler Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 6:54 AM To: Art Douglas Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Which do you prefer, X12 or EDIFACT? I don't think that I understand the difficulty in finding EDIFACT standrds. I just spent about 12 seconds googling and hit their main site: http://www.unece.org/trade/untdid/welcome.htm It seemed to have the standards to me. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Art Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:acd%40ix.netcom.com> > wrote: > Setting aside the Spanish/English argument for the [Off-Topic] discussion, I > prefer X12 for one reason: Documentation. With X12 I can go to one book or > one CD-ROM and find the documentation I need. This is because the X12 > committee and DISA cooperate to get all the documentation in one place. > With EDIFACT, there are so many different agencies contributing that it is > very difficult to find the standard, or even a cohesive presentation of the > standards. People complain that EDIFACT is free, whereas X12 standards cost > hundreds of dollars. Well, I have spent thousands of my clients dollars > trying to track down the EDIFACT standards, whereas one investment in a > CD-ROM for less than $600 has sufficed for all my X12 needs for a long time. > > That being said, EDIFACT is not difficult if you know X12. X12 is not > difficult if you know EDIFACT. Preference for one standard or the other is > probably largely based on which one you learned best. > > Bien? > > Art Douglas > Lead Consultant > Blackwater Network > (877) 464-8915 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > Ricardo Johnson > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:09 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:chillsredhot%40yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Which do you prefer, X12 or EDIFACT? > > X12 has been around much longer that EDIFACT so it's widely used in the US > and Canada, where it started. EDIFACT is much younger and underwent the > normal problems of maturing. But now that they're both just as mature, > robust, and efficient the question: 'Will EDIFACT replace X12 in the > US?' becomes a relevant one. > I'd like to answer it with another question: Will Spanish replace English in > the US? > Like English, X12 is so entrenched in US business culture and systems that > it would be impossible to replace. Yet, as the rest of the world embrases > EDIFACT, more and more US companies, specially those dealing with > international trade, will have to become at least partially bilingual. EDI > bilinguism, like any other should thus evolve as a natural consequence of > influence, usege, and need, not mandates. > In fact, this is already happening: the US Customs bureau, most of the large > automotive and logistics firms, and many others others are using EDIFACT > with their international trading partners. I know for instance Wal-Mart has > been using EDIFACT with all of its TPs in Mexico since 1995, when that > country adopted EDIFACT as their national standard. Is suppose Mexico is not > the only case either. > That said, it would nice to see more companies in the US experimenting with > EDIFACT, after all it's developed and promoted by the United Nations for > global trade and understanding, it's already included in most of the EDI > software, and best of all it's FREE.. > Can't go wrong! > Ricardo Johnson > > . However, like Spanish EDIFACT offers many benefits very rapidly a--- On > Thu, 9/4/08, Chill <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:chillsredhot%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > From: Chill <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:chillsredhot%40yahoo.com> > > Subject: [EDI-L] Which do you prefer, X12 or EDIFACT? > To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:34 AM > > Just starting this discussion to see which is the preferred EDI format. > I have heard statements from some that "EDIFACT will replace X12 within > the next 5 years" and "X12 is Superior and EDIFACT is Inferior". > I would like to hear the Pros and Cons of both from some of > the "Superior Minds" that frequent this group. > As a little background data, we are using Inovis BizManager (Oracle > Data Base) and the Inovis Mapper product. > We are on a Linux set up using Redhat 4, using Oracle 11i. > > Thank you, > Char > 859-620-3356 > > ------------------------------------ > > ... > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: > <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, > <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > > Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: > <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! 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