Jake,

That's a given and obviously understood...

We're not one of those "we're the customer, we're right" shops, but 
if push does come to shove - that old adage:

1 - the customer is always right 
2 - when in doubt, see #1 above!

is true.  When it comes to who is going to win, it should be the 
customer - the person buying your products.

I've blogged about that concept over on http://editalk.com (and 
other concepts, too!) - but it's still the case.

But I also agree with you - in that sometimes, some of the rules and 
all that some buyers - and yes, some vendors - try to enforce are 
ludicrous and stupid and truly overkill.

Craig

--- In [email protected], "Holt, Jake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Craig,
> 
>  
> 
> I wasn't completely serious, but it does frustrate me to see 
people with
> that "we're the customer, you follow our rules!" mentality.  We 
don't do
> it to our vendors because we understand if we make them angry we're
> probably not going to be able to service our customers.  I just 
wish
> sometimes the end of the line would realize we're not magicians and
> we're not always the ones that screwed up =).
> 
>  
> 
> Jake
> 
>  
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of
> Craig Dunham
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EDI-L] Re: Home Depot late 997 reminder
> 
>  
> 
> Ha! Obviously, Jake, you don't know Me (or My employer!) too 
well...
> 
> 1 - we dont' really do chargebacks... and we never really have 
> considered them...
> 
> 2 - most of our smaller vedors - and there are a LOT of them - use 
> third party solutions (you know, those web-based and even FAX 
based 
> programs) to do their EDI, and the FA/997 comes from this source, 
> not from the actual opening of the document on the website...
> 
> 3 - cost is something I've always complained about and often 
> mention - because we do use so many small vendors - and I'm always 
> venting (or whatever!) about how those same 3rd party sources need 
> to be sure to include some kind of "low price" offering for those 
> very same small vendors & suppliers.
> 
> 4 - one final thing - I don't have any kind of requisite for a 
time 
> frame on the FA return. I get a report of delinquent FAs and thats 
> 3 days after I send a PO. Then, and only then, do I worry about 
> it. And even then I'm not too worried as our buying department 
> still faxes hard copies of the POs to the reps and the rep 
> agencies...
> 
> Craig Dunham
> EDI Coordinator
> 
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%
40yahoogroups.com> , "Holt,
> Jake" <jholt@> wrote:
> >
> > What if a really good vendor of yours couldn't afford to meet 
your
> > requirements? Let me guess, you'd just toss them aside, or fine 
> them
> > into submission? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] 
On 
> Behalf Of
> > Craig Dunham
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:02 AM
> > To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: [EDI-L] Re: Home Depot late 997 reminder
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hmmm... This has been one that has always bugged Me... But, as 
the 
> > retailer - as the hub - I get to call the shots on how soon I 
> expect 
> > an ASN in return...
> > 
> > But I do still, from time to time, get notices from a vendor - 
or, 
> > more interestingly, from a 3rd party provider - looking for an 
ASN 
> > in "RIGHT NOW" kind of a time frame. I then just reply back - 
> > politely, of course - that My normal turn-around time for the FA 
> for 
> > an inbound document can be a day. I run 3 automatic 
send/receives 
> > per day. So during that time, any FAs fro the previous few hours 
> > will then go out - at 6:30 AM, 2:30 PM and 4:20PM - Pacific 
time - 
> 7 
> > days a week.
> > 
> > Never hear anything back from them about it, either...
> > 
> > Just remember - to you suppliers and vendors out there (or the 
> > consultants that work for them!) - it's the customer (Me, the 
> > retailer or buyer of your product!) that sets the rule when it 
> comes 
> > to EDI...
> > 
> > Craig Dunham
> > EDI Coordinator
> > at an 800LB Gorilla retailer/hub!
> > 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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