On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:

> Get out your shovels and sand bags, 'cause here come a real tidal  
> wave.

Dave,

Thanks for passing on the information. Reading between the lines such  
as "For B2B applications [Open Source and COTS], full matrix testing  
and certification programs are necessary to identify and resolve all  
the interoperability problems" I am not surprised that DGI is  
expanding its market by creating the need for more testing. I wonder  
what took so long for DGI to lay the foundation to expand  
certification to all B2B applications, not just communications?

As someone who has been in software development for the last 25+  
years, and having been the first to go through EDIINT testing with  
DGI, and before that with X.400 certification, I prefer "self testing"  
using a free and open test suite that can be used by developers,  
vendors and users alike. This type of testing has been common in many  
areas, such as ebXML using a test suite provided by NIST, resulting in  
top quality Open Source and/or COTS applications.

One issue I have found with the way certification is done by DGI is  
that if the participants don't agree on the interpretation of the  
standard/specification, they agree to an ad-hoc "fix" in order to  
certify their interoperability amongst their application. In other  
words, DGI certification is not about being 100% in compliant with the  
standard/specification in question, it certifies that that application  
can interoperate with each other. Or to put it into EDI terms,  
certification does not certify that a set of EDI translators are 100%  
compliant with say UN/EDIFACT syntax, but do interoperate as long as  
they agree to the fix that the UNOA character set is not restricted to  
"Uppercase" characters only. The end result would be that a truly 100%  
compliant EDI application that is not certified by DGI would reject an  
interchange from a "certified" application. Do I have to say more?

Maybe it is time for starters for us to work together on creating a  
open source AS2 test suite. Anyone interested?

Klaus


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