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--- Pada Sel, 16/12/08, Dian Nugraha <[email protected]> menulis:
Dari: Dian Nugraha <[email protected]>
Topik: Re: Bls: [ekonomi-syariah] Penggunaan Mata Uang Emas dan Perak - Re: 
John Nash praised the gold standard
Kepada: [email protected]
Tanggal: Selasa, 16 Desember, 2008, 5:41 AM










    
            Bukannya kalau:

emas dijadikan uang dan populasi manusia bertambah dan pertambahan

jumlah komoditas lebih dari pertambahan emas:



Maka:

-> emas akan terasa kurang -> nilai emas naik -> harga-harga komoditas

lain akan semakin murah. ??



Wassalaam,

Dian.



2008/12/15 budi darmawan <budi_darmawan_ 43...@yahoo. co.id>:

>

> Inflasi akan tetap terjadi sekalipun emas dan perak digunakan sebagai alat

> pembayaran,

>

> Masalahnya bukan di mata uangnya, tetapi dari "kelangkaan" . Selagi manusia

> masih menggunakan Bahan - bahan tambang yang notabenenya tidak dapat

> diperbaharui, seperti ;  Minyak bumi, batu bara, Nikel , timah dan

> sejenisnya (dengan asumsi kondisi permintaan dan penawaran normal ) maka

> harga-harga akan tetap bergerak naik .

>

> Apalagi jumlah manusia dari tahun ketahun kian bertambah..

>

> Sehingga sulit rasanya mengatakan dunia bisa tanpa hitungan inflasi.. ya

> kecuali semua yang dipake manusia bisa didaur ulang.. Mungkin nanti di Sorga

> .. InsyaAllah

>

> Wallahualam

>

>

>

>

>

> --- Pada Sen, 15/12/08, A Nizami <nizam...@yahoo. com> menulis:

>

> Dari: A Nizami <nizam...@yahoo. com>

> Topik: [ekonomi-syariah] Penggunaan Mata Uang Emas dan Perak - Re: John Nash

> praised the gold standard

> Kepada: "ekonomisyariah" <ekonomi-syariah@ yahoogroups. com>

> Tanggal: Senin, 15 Desember, 2008, 10:38 AM

>

> Kalau ekonom pemenang Nobel sudah memuji uang dengan

> standar emas, tentu ini cukup menggembirakan.

>

> Mata uang kertas yang tidak dipatok sama sekali

> akhirnya cenderung tidak stabil dan selalu dimakan

> inflasi sekitar 10-20%/tahun. Kalau gaji/UMR pakai

> uang kertas tsb, maka rakyat mengalami proses

> pemiskinan massal jika besar gaji/UMR tidak naik

> melebihi nilai inflasi.

>

> Mata uang kertas yang dipatok emas lebih baik. Tapi

> bisa terjadi "penipuan" ketika satu negara memproduksi

> lebih banyak uang kertas daripada emas yang jadi

> jaminannya. Ini sulit diawasi, dikontrol, atau

> diperiksa.

>

> Mata uang emas dan perak. Nilai stabil dan mudah

> dikontrol penggunaannya.

>

> Penggunaan logam mulia sebaiknya 2 jenis (bimetal)

> yaitu emas dan perak agar tidak terjadi kelangkaan.

>

> --- sidqy suyitno <sidqy_suyitno@ yahoo.com> menulis:

>

>> A Beautiful Mind Indeed: Nobel Economist Says More

>> Stable Currency Needed

>> John Nash, who won

>> the 1994 Nobel Prize in economics, praised the gold

>> standard in a recent talk

>> at Fordham.

>> Contact: Janet Sassi

>> 212-636-7577

>> fallersassi@ fordham.edu

>> Nash said that various

>> interest groups that subscribe to Keynesian, or

>> short-term, economic theories

>> have sold the public on the notion that inflation is

>> acceptable or that

>> "bad money is better than good money." Such a

>> notion, he said, led to

>> the dangerous proliferation of bad mortgage

>> loans--loans made on the gamble

>> that house values would continue to rise and

>> eventually turn a profit.

>> "A

>> fixed-rate 30-year mortgage would be reasonable

>> under the gold standard,"

>> Nash said. "Now, there are variable rates, and

>> adjustables, and

>> convertibles, and it is very complicated" for

>> homeowners to figure out

>> what they are getting into. In fact, Nash said,

>> nobody really knows the depth

>> of the financial crisis.

>> More

>> than 200 members of the Fordham community converged

>> upon the Flom Auditorium on

>> Oct. 14 to hear John Forbes Nash Jr., Ph.D., winner

>> of the 1994 Nobel Memorial

>> Prize in Economic Sciences, talk about solutions to

>> the downturn in the

>> national and global economy.

>> Nash

>> told the audience that such financial crises would

>> be less likely to occur if

>> there was some international monetary standard, such

>> as the gold standard or

>> competition among worldwide currencies, to curb

>> inflation and prevent the rise

>> of mortgage abuses. He expressed some skepticism

>> about a government bailout as

>> a solution.

>> "I

>> get the impression that the government is not ready

>> to do anything that is

>> really beyond a short-term basis," said Nash, a

>> senior research mathematician

>> at Princeton. "[But] we need a natural stability

>> of

>> value."

>> Nash

>> said that various interest groups that subscribe to

>> Keynesian, or short-term,

>> economic theories have sold the public on the notion

>> that inflation is

>> acceptable or that "bad money is better than good

>> money." Such a notion, he

>> said, led to the dangerous proliferation of bad

>> mortgage loans—loans made on

>> the gamble that house values would continue to rise

>> and eventually turn a

>> profit.

>> "A

>> fixed-rate 30-year mortgage would be reasonable

>> under the gold standard," Nash

>> said. "Now, there are variable rates, and

>> adjustables, and convertibles, and it

>> is very complicated" for homeowners to figure out

>> what they are getting into.

>> In fact, Nash said, nobody really knows the depth of

>> the financial crisis.

>> Having

>> an internationally oriented money standard would

>> promote better quality

>> currencies and less inflation, he added.

>> Nash

>> further said that any such new international

>> monetary system should be

>> democratically determined, and cited the recent vote

>> in Swedennot to abandon the Krona for the Euro.

>> Nash

>> shared the 1994 Nobel Memorial Prize with two other

>> economists for research in

>> game theory, a method of predicting behavior in

>> strategic social situations and

>> a tool now widely used by economists and biologists.

>> His academic notoriety was

>> catapulted into celebrity status in 2001 when he and

>> his wife, Alicia, became

>> the subject of the movie "A Beautiful Mind." The

>> film was nominated

>> for eight Oscars and won four. The movie, part of

>> which was filmed in the

>> basement of Keating Hall, documents Nash's seminal

>> contributions to game theory

>> and mathematics and his subsequent 25-year struggle

>> with schizophrenia.

>> The

>> event was also attended by special guest Charles

>> Soludo, Ph.D., governor of the

>> Central Bank of Nigeria.

>> Dominick

>> Salvatore, Ph.D., Distinguished Professor of

>> Economics, introduced Nash and

>> Saludo to the standing-room- only crowd and concurred

>> with the need for a new

>> international regulatory system more in tune with

>> today's global economy.

>> "The entire financial sector has to be regulated,

>> but those regulations cannot

>> be specific," Salvatore said. "Money is

>> fungible. You have to be comprehensive,

>> but general."

>> Reform

>> starts at home, Salvatore argued. "We need less

>> exotic derivatives and much

>> more transparency. And the U.S.has to live within

>> its means. We save

>> practically nothing at the individual level . . . we

>> have a huge trade deficit

>> and we are mortgaging our future."

>> The

>> event was part of the Distinguished Lecture Series

>> hosted by Fordham's Center

>> for International Policy Studies.

>> Founded

>> in 1841, Fordham is the Jesuit University of New

>> York, offering exceptional

>> education distinguished by the Jesuit tradition to

>> approximately 14,700

>> students in its four undergraduate colleges and its

>> six graduate and

>> professional schools. It has residential campuses in

>> the Bronxand Manhattan, a campus in Westchester, and

>> the Louis Calder Center Biological

>> Field Station in Armonk, N.Y.10/08

>>

>>


      

    
    
        
         
        
        








        


        
        


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