aslkm.. numpang ikut beri komentar ya..
perdebatan mengenai uang apa yang kita pakai sebenarnya belum begitu produktif
untuk dibicarakan saat ini, saat dimana ekonnomi syariah butuh aktualisasi.
butuh hal-hal yang bersifat nyata dalam usaha pengembangan ekonomi syariah.
lagian tidak ada dalil yang pasti melarang penggunaan mata uang jenis apapun..
jangan-jangan jadi mengharamkan yang sebnarnya halal.
mata uang kertas banyak kelemahan, tapi mata uang emas juga tidak sedikit
kelemahannya. kalau kita mau lihat sejarah mata uang pada masa
rasullullah,dinar dan dirham juga bukan berasal dari umat islam.
ekonomi adalah masalah mauamalah, yang terpenting adalah manfaat bagi ummat.
dan kalau kita mau jujur kembali pahami defenisi uang, maka semakin jelaslah
bahwa perdebatan tentang uang yang kita gunakan jelas-jelas hal yang tidak
berguna. baik dari prinsip ekonomi islam, ataupun ekonomi konvensional.
so apapun alat tukar gak jadi masalah untuk saat ini.
dan inflasi bukan karena uang kertas, inflasi akan tetap terjadi sekalipun kita
gunakan mata uang apapun, inflasi akan tetap ada selam manusi masih hidup,
karena inflasi adalah ekspektasi. jadi inflasi adalah niscaya, dan bukan hal
yang tabu dalam jeis ekonomi apapun.
mohon maaf bila salah
terimakasih
--- Pada Sen, 22/12/08, ibnu siena <[email protected]> menulis:
Dari: ibnu siena <[email protected]>
Topik: Re: Bls: [ekonomi-syariah] Penggunaan Mata Uang Emas dan Perak - Re:
John Nash praised the gold standard
Kepada: [email protected]
Tanggal: Senin, 22 Desember, 2008, 9:16 AM
yang salah bukan emas atau dinarnya, tetapi penggunaan mata uang
kertas yang menyebabkan inflasi.....
From: budi darmawan <budi_darmawan_ 43...@yahoo. co.id>
To: ekonomi-syariah@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ekonomi-syariah] Penggunaan Mata Uang Emas
dan Perak - Re: John Nash praised the gold standard
Assalamualaikum wr.Wb
Apa gunannya harga barang "terkesan" murah tapi kita sulit mendapatkan uang
untuk membeli barang kebutuhan. karena "sulit" dan "mahal" nya uang (baca:
emas/dinar) tersebut ...
Nah..lho ?!
Wallahualam
--- Pada Sel, 16/12/08, Dian Nugraha <dian.nugraha@ gmail.com> menulis:
Dari: Dian Nugraha <dian.nugraha@ gmail.com>
Topik: Re: Bls: [ekonomi-syariah] Penggunaan Mata Uang Emas dan Perak - Re:
John Nash praised the gold standard
Kepada: ekonomi-syariah@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Selasa, 16 Desember, 2008, 8:41 PM
Bukannya kalau:
emas dijadikan uang dan populasi manusia bertambah dan pertambahan
jumlah komoditas lebih dari pertambahan emas:
Maka:
-> emas akan terasa kurang -> nilai emas naik -> harga-harga komoditas
lain akan semakin murah. ??
Wassalaam,
Dian.
2008/12/15 budi darmawan <budi_darmawan_ 43...@yahoo. co.id>:
>
> Inflasi akan tetap terjadi sekalipun emas dan perak digunakan sebagai alat
> pembayaran,
>
> Masalahnya bukan di mata uangnya, tetapi dari "kelangkaan" . Selagi manusia
> masih menggunakan Bahan - bahan tambang yang notabenenya tidak dapat
> diperbaharui, seperti ; Minyak bumi, batu bara, Nikel , timah dan
> sejenisnya (dengan asumsi kondisi permintaan dan penawaran normal ) maka
> harga-harga akan
tetap bergerak naik .
>
> Apalagi jumlah
manusia dari tahun ketahun kian bertambah..
>
> Sehingga sulit rasanya mengatakan dunia bisa tanpa hitungan inflasi.. ya
> kecuali semua yang dipake manusia bisa didaur ulang.. Mungkin nanti di Sorga
> .. InsyaAllah
>
> Wallahualam
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Pada Sen, 15/12/08, A Nizami <nizam...@yahoo. com> menulis:
>
> Dari: A Nizami <nizam...@yahoo. com>
> Topik: [ekonomi-syariah] Penggunaan Mata Uang Emas dan Perak - Re: John Nash
> praised the gold standard
> Kepada: "ekonomisyariah" <ekonomi-syariah@ yahoogroups. com>
> Tanggal: Senin, 15 Desember, 2008, 10:38 AM
>
> Kalau ekonom pemenang Nobel sudah memuji
uang dengan
> standar emas, tentu ini cukup menggembirakan.
>
> Mata uang kertas yang tidak dipatok sama sekali
> akhirnya cenderung tidak stabil dan selalu dimakan
> inflasi sekitar 10-20%/tahun. Kalau gaji/UMR pakai
> uang kertas tsb, maka rakyat mengalami proses
> pemiskinan massal jika besar gaji/UMR tidak naik
> melebihi nilai inflasi.
>
> Mata uang kertas yang dipatok emas lebih baik. Tapi
> bisa terjadi "penipuan" ketika satu negara memproduksi
> lebih banyak uang kertas daripada emas yang jadi
> jaminannya. Ini sulit diawasi, dikontrol, atau
> diperiksa.
>
> Mata uang emas dan perak. Nilai stabil dan mudah
> dikontrol penggunaannya.
>
> Penggunaan logam mulia sebaiknya 2 jenis (bimetal)
> yaitu emas dan perak agar tidak terjadi kelangkaan.
>
> --- sidqy suyitno <sidqy_suyitno@ yahoo.com>
menulis:
>
>> A Beautiful Mind Indeed: Nobel Economist Says More
>> Stable Currency Needed
>> John Nash, who won
>> the 1994 Nobel Prize in economics, praised the gold
>> standard in a recent talk
>> at Fordham.
>> Contact: Janet Sassi
>> 212-636-7577
>> fallersassi@ fordham.edu
>> Nash said that various
>> interest groups that subscribe to Keynesian, or
>> short-term, economic theories
>> have sold the public on the notion that inflation is
>> acceptable or that
>> "bad money is better than good money." Such a
>> notion, he said, led to
>> the dangerous proliferation of bad mortgage
>> loans--loans made on the gamble
>> that house values would continue to rise and
>> eventually turn a profit.
>> "A
>> fixed-rate 30-year mortgage would be
reasonable
>> under the gold standard,"
>> Nash said. "Now, there are variable rates, and
>> adjustables, and
>> convertibles, and it is very complicated" for
>> homeowners to figure out
>> what they are getting into. In fact, Nash said,
>> nobody really knows the depth
>> of the financial crisis.
>> More
>> than 200 members of the Fordham community converged
>> upon the Flom Auditorium on
>> Oct. 14 to hear John Forbes Nash Jr., Ph.D., winner
>> of the 1994 Nobel Memorial
>> Prize in Economic Sciences, talk about solutions to
>> the downturn in the
>> national and global economy.
>> Nash
>> told the audience that such financial crises would
>> be less likely to occur if
>> there was some international monetary standard, such
>> as the gold standard or
>>
competition among worldwide currencies, to curb
>> inflation and prevent the rise
>> of mortgage abuses. He expressed some skepticism
>> about a government bailout as
>> a solution.
>> "I
>> get the impression that the government is not ready
>> to do anything that is
>> really beyond a short-term basis," said Nash, a
>> senior research mathematician
>> at Princeton. "[But] we need a natural stability
>> of
>> value."
>> Nash
>> said that various interest groups that subscribe to
>> Keynesian, or short-term,
>> economic theories have sold the public on the notion
>> that inflation is
>> acceptable or that "bad money is better than good
>> money." Such a notion, he
>> said, led to the dangerous proliferation of bad
>> mortgage loans—loans made on
>> the
gamble that house values would continue to rise
>> and eventually turn a
>> profit.
>> "A
>> fixed-rate 30-year mortgage would be reasonable
>> under the gold standard," Nash
>> said. "Now, there are variable rates, and
>> adjustables, and convertibles, and it
>> is very complicated" for homeowners to figure out
>> what they are getting into.
>> In fact, Nash said, nobody really knows the depth of
>> the financial crisis.
>> Having
>> an internationally oriented money standard would
>> promote better quality
>> currencies and less inflation, he added.
>> Nash
>> further said that any such new international
>> monetary system should be
>> democratically determined, and cited the recent vote
>> in Swedennot to abandon the Krona for the Euro.
>> Nash
>> shared
the 1994 Nobel Memorial Prize with two other
>> economists for research in
>> game theory, a method of predicting behavior in
>> strategic social situations and
>> a tool now widely used by economists and biologists.
>> His academic notoriety was
>> catapulted into celebrity status in 2001 when he and
>> his wife, Alicia, became
>> the subject of the movie "A Beautiful Mind." The
>> film was nominated
>> for eight Oscars and won four. The movie, part of
>> which was filmed in the
>> basement of Keating Hall, documents Nash's seminal
>> contributions to game theory
>> and mathematics and his subsequent 25-year struggle
>> with schizophrenia.
>> The
>> event was also attended by special guest Charles
>> Soludo, Ph.D., governor of the
>> Central Bank of Nigeria.
>>
Dominick
>> Salvatore, Ph.D., Distinguished Professor of
>> Economics, introduced Nash and
>> Saludo to the standing-room- only crowd and concurred
>> with the need for a new
>> international regulatory system more in tune with
>> today's global economy.
>> "The entire financial sector has to be regulated,
>> but those regulations cannot
>> be specific," Salvatore said. "Money is
>> fungible. You have to be comprehensive,
>> but general."
>> Reform
>> starts at home, Salvatore argued. "We need less
>> exotic derivatives and much
>> more transparency. And the U.S.has to live within
>> its means. We save
>> practically nothing at the individual level . . . we
>> have a huge trade deficit
>> and we are mortgaging our future."
>> The
>> event was part of the Distinguished
Lecture Series
>> hosted by Fordham's Center
>> for International Policy Studies.
>> Founded
>> in 1841, Fordham is the Jesuit University of New
>> York, offering exceptional
>> education distinguished by the Jesuit tradition to
>> approximately 14,700
>> students in its four undergraduate colleges and its
>> six graduate and
>> professional schools. It has residential campuses in
>> the Bronxand Manhattan, a campus in Westchester, and
>> the Louis Calder Center Biological
>> Field Station in Armonk, N.Y.10/08
>>
>>
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