I should clarify that I have no issues moving to Discourse, as long as instantaneous email interaction is preserved, just wanted to point out that I see no issues with the mailing lists.
The question is moot anyways since the change will happen regardless of our inputs. I hope we can subscribe to Discourse mailing lists without needing an account. Cheers, Ivan On Apr 13, 2015 7:13 PM, "Leslie Hawthorn" <leslie.hawth...@elastic.co> wrote: > Thanks for your feedback, Ivan. > > There's no plan to remove threads from the forums, so information would > always be archived there as well. > > Does that impact your thoughts on moving to Discourse? > > Folks, please keep the feedback coming! > > Cheers, > LH > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Ivan Brusic <i...@brusic.com> wrote: > >> As one of the oldest and most frequent users (before my sabbatical) of >> the mailing list, I just wanted to say that I never had an issue with it. >> It works. As long as I could continue using only email, I am happy. >> >> For realtime communication, there is the IRC channel. If prefer the >> mailing list since everything is archived. >> >> Ivan >> On Apr 2, 2015 5:36 PM, "leslie.hawthorn" <leslie.hawth...@elastic.co> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> As we’ve begun to scale up development on three different open source >>> projects, we’ve found Google Groups to be a difficult solution for dealing >>> with all of our needs for community support. We’ve got multiple mailing >>> lists going, which can be confusing for new folks trying to figure out >>> where to go to ask a question. >>> >>> We’ve also found our lists are becoming noisy in the “good problem to >>> have” kind of way. As we’ve seen more user adoption, and across such a wide >>> variety of use cases, we’re getting widely different types of questions >>> asked. For example, I can imagine that folks not using our Python client >>> would rather not be distracted with emails about it. >>> >>> There’s also a few other strikes against Groups as a tool, such as the >>> fact that it is no longer a supported product by Google, it provides no API >>> hooks and it is not available for users in China. >>> >>> We’ve evaluated several options and we’re currently considering >>> shuttering the elasticsearch-user and logstash-users Google Groups in favor >>> of a Discourse forum. You can read more about Discourse at >>> http://www.discourse.org >>> >>> We feel Discourse will allow us to provide a better experience for all >>> of our users for a few reasons: >>> >>> * More fine grained conversation topics = less noise and better targeted >>> discussions. e.g. we can offer a forum for each language client, individual >>> logstash plugin or for each city to plan user group meetings, etc. >>> >>> * Facilitates discussions that are not generally happening on list now, >>> such as best practices by use case or tips from moving to development to >>> production >>> >>> * Easier for folks who are purely end users - and less used to getting >>> peer support on a mailing list - to get help when they need it >>> >>> Obviously, Discourse does not function the exact same way as a mailing >>> list - however, email interaction with Discourse is supported and will >>> continue to allow you to participate in discussions over email (though >>> there are some small issues related to in-line replies. [0]) >>> >>> We’re working with the Discourse team now as part of evaluating this >>> transition, and we know they’re working to resolve this particular issue. >>> We’re also still determining how Discourse will handle our needs for both >>> user and list archive migration, and we’ll know the precise details of how >>> that would work soon. (We’ll share when we have them.) >>> >>> The final goal would be to move Google Groups to read-only archives, and >>> cut over to Discourse completely for community support discussions. >>> >>> We’re looking at making the cut over in ~30 days from today, but >>> obviously that’s subject to the feedback we receive from all of you. We’re >>> sharing this information to set expectations about time frame for making >>> the switch. It’s not set in stone. Our highest priority is to ensure >>> effective migration of our list archives and subscribers, which may mean a >>> longer time horizon for deploying Discourse, as well. >>> >>> In the meantime, though, we wanted to communicate early and often and >>> get your feedback. Would this change make your life better? Worse? Meh? >>> >>> Please share your thoughts with us so we can evaluate your feedback. We >>> don’t take this switch lightly, and we want to understand how it will >>> impact your overall workflow and experience. >>> >>> We’ll make regular updates to the list responding to incoming feedback >>> and be completely transparent about how our thought processes evolve based >>> on it. >>> >>> Thanks in advance! >>> >>> [0] - https://meta.discourse.org/t/migrating-from-google-groups/24695 >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> LH >>> >>> Leslie Hawthorn >>> Director of Developer Relations >>> http://elastic.co >>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to elasticsearch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAHj2c4A6M4LfRUaEeTQbFx16%3D%2Bi5cvuzunB0f3rbQaeP312COQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAHj2c4A6M4LfRUaEeTQbFx16%3D%2Bi5cvuzunB0f3rbQaeP312COQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. 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