That's almost too funny to contemplate! No computer - no email, no rig control, no logging program - I would probably never know the guy existed! LOL!
Art - N4PJ On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:40 PM, hawley, charles j jr <c-haw...@illinois.edu > wrote: > Well...if you buy a computer program, you pretty much would have a > computer. It seems possible that some radio buyers would not. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 2:22 PM, "Arthur Burke" <aburk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > N1MM has taken the approach that *they* are not going to be responsible > for > > you having a paper copy. But they do have a set of instructions available > > for you to "print" to a .pdf format so you can have a "local" copy on > your > > PC or your iPAD. > > > > I find that works extremely well and it's a lot easier to remain current > - > > and it was already too much of a PITA to print the manual in a standard, > > printed document. > > > > Personally, I find the manual availability in .pdf format from Elecraft > to > > be a very workable solution. > > > > Art - N4PJ > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Lu Romero <lrom...@ij.net> wrote: > > > >> A lot of Equipment manufacturers I work with have stopped > >> shipping printed manuals. You get a printed "Quick Start" > >> or "installation guide" with the product and either a DVD/CD > >> ROM with the manual in PDF or a website to download and > >> print the latest iteration of the manual in PDF. > >> > >> Printed manuals are both expensive and hard to keep current. > >> There are many benefits to paper manuals, but also many > >> benefits to "soft" manuals. There are mutual benefits to > >> both the manufacturer and the customer, and yes, detractions > >> as well. One video server device that I use has the manual > >> included in the product's hard drive as a web page which > >> they update remotely and automatically via the internet as > >> needed. Anywhere you use the product, the manual is as > >> close as the client computer's browser. When (not *IF*, > >> *WHEN*!) the server goes down, though, how do you reference > >> the manual if you didnt print it or move it to your > >> Ipad/Tablet? > >> > >> Im still not "paperless" in manuals and technical reference > >> documents; I like to have a printed version around. Its an > >> old habit. But Im a dying breed. More and more, I see IPads > >> or Tablets being used for this purpose, a handheld > >> "reference library" of sorts. Its quite efficient with text > >> search functions... that is, until you need the manual at a > >> remote site when the power is out and the battery in the > >> device runs down. > >> > >> The tech in the gear we use today is more and more software > >> based. It changes so quickly and so often, usually by the > >> time the product ships, the manual is several iterations > >> old. Its a sign of the times. I have been doing a lot of > >> thinking about this issue at work recently. > >> > >> So, Im wondering, how upset would us Elecraft customers be > >> if paper manuals were not included with the product? When > >> purchasing the product, you would have to either download > >> the manual from the web and print it if you wanted a printed > >> copy or get it on Optical Media and print it from there > >> Just wondering what everybody thinks about these scenarios. > >> Is it blasphemy? Is it progress? > >> > >> Lu - W4LT > >> K3/P3/K1 > >> > >> ------------------------ > >> > >> > >> Message: 5 > >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:51:48 -0400 > >> From: Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com> > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and KPA500 > >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Message-ID: <4fd5e9e4.3080...@embarqmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >> > >> Yes, updating of on-line pdf manuals is easy and trivial, > >> but what does > >> Elecraft do when 100 manuals have been printed and have to > >> be updated - > >> open them and pencil in the changes? I think not - Errata > >> sheets are > >> the only practical method. > >> > >> 73, > >> Don W3FPR > >> > >> On 6/10/2012 10:34 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >>> On 6/10/2012 6:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > >>>> This is a classic example of the results and frustration > >> caused by > >>>> ignoring the Errata Sheet. > >>> Yes, BUT -- with modern desktop publishing, it is > >> trivially easy for a > >>> decent technical writer to keep a pdf up to date. I have > >> several dozen > >>> tutorials online as pdf files, and I can edit the source > >> file, save it > >>> as a pdf, and upload it to my website in an hour. If I > >> can do that, > >>> Elecraft should be able to do that. It's equally easy for > >> that pdf to > >>> include a running list of changes and additions as an > >> appendix. > >>> > >>> 73, Jim K9YC > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
