Barry,

The RemoteRig system generates its own CW using an internal protocol, which solves latency issues. You use your key at the control end and the radio side RRC generates a clean CW without hiccups. It has error control and is (I believe) very robust. I know of someone doing 40 wpm full BK with no problem, but your mileage will vary, depending upon the internet connection.

As for the internet connection; there is a lot of discussion on the RemoteRig forum at their web site www.remoterig.com, so you can search there. In general, here are some tips:

The sum of bandwidth required:
- COM0 serial port bps
- COM1 and/or COM2 bps if used (i.e. for CAT or rotor control)
- which CODEC you are using, refer to appendix A in the Manual or http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=388 I use CODEC 0 for almost all of my stations, which has proven to be more than adequate for SSB and CW. - If you are running single or dual-channel audio (this doubles the codec rate requirement)
- There is some overhead in the 20-50 bps range

Remember also that this is doubled, up and down! Most DSL lines are asynchronous and have a lot less bandwidth going up than down, but the internet provider usually only advertises the down speed. You need therefore to take into account that the bandwidth used by RemoteRig is the same in both directions.

Take into account the serial ports sent over the RRC, including CAT. It is not always necessary to run them at 38,400 bps! I recommend setting the K3 to 9600 bps to reduce your bandwidth that way.

I also need to point out that I believe that the latency is far more important than the bandwidth, especially once you are over about 250k bps. Often 3G lines have severe latency problems making them unusable, and satellite is not advisable at all.

Feel free to contact me directly if you have any further questions.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

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On 14.07.2014 03:36, Barry wrote:
A while back we tried Remoterig with a Kenwood radio and the CW generated was
poor on the other end.  This was presumably from dropped packets and or
latency issues (Comcast on one end and a terrestrial microwave connection on
the other end).  Some dits/dahs were lost and others were prolonged, due to
the lost stop signal.  My understanding of the remoterig protocol for CW is
it's not very robust, with no error correction or ACKing.

We got around the CW problem by using a VNC and the CW is generated at the
host end within the VNC window, using N1MM, directly keying the radio.

If we were to use a K3 and K3/remote for the radio, would there be potential
radio control issues due to the flaky internet connection, or is there
redundancy and/or error correction built into the Elecraft remote protocol?

Barry W2UP




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