On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 10:55 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV spewed:

Implicit in your statement is that the transceiver, automobile, roadway
or whatever should make it impossible for the operator to have an
accident.  That's not possible - there are those who can break an anvil.
===

Untrue Joe...  No where do I imply that it should be "impossible" for an
accident to happen.  In fact I infer just the opposite, that there
should be safeguards.  I infer it by use of sarcasm.  

You are again taking everything to extremes, then arguing that issue as
if the originator of the statement also took things to extremes.  Please
read what was typed and respond to what was typed, not your translation
of what was typed.


On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 10:55 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV sprayed the Internet
with:

The current design that *THREE* separate indications of split operation.
Any *one* of those should be sufficient.  *NONE* of the proposals do
anything to address the real question which should be how to notify the
operator that he *should be in split*.
===

Clearly you are not reading, or comprehending, what is being said
here...  Many Ops here have said, (repeatedly), that the radio is
dropping out of Split for some reason, and they are not noticing it.
Hence your premise that the Ops need to be told they "*should be in
split*" is deeply flawed.  

Clearly there is an issue Joe...  There are just too many people
requesting a change.


On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 10:55 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV heaved up the
following:

The problem is that the operator *is not paying attention*.  The correct
approach would be:  every time the operator activates transmit, the rig
display should show a message that says "you are in transceive (simplex)
- are you sure you should not engage split?  Press XMIT to begin
transmitting"
=== 
Again, using the Extreme card to make a point that just does not cut the
mustard on it's own...  

For those of us that make mistakes Joe, (unlike yourself evidently),
there is an issue here...
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> 

> 73,
> 
>     ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2015-02-18 10:40 AM, David Cole wrote:
> > Dave (AB9CA),
> >
> > Given your logic, we should get rid of all street signs, and stop
> > lights, and guard rails on bridges, and roads, because the drivers are
> > just initiative, and the crutch o guard rails is not needed for them.
> >
> > Implicit in your statement, is the assumption that the provided
> > indicators are sufficient, which all of this traffic would seem to
> > indicate is not the case.
> >
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