Guys, thread was closed earlier. Please take it off list. 73,
Eric Moderator, really! elecraft.com _..._ > On Jul 26, 2016, at 6:33 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <r...@cobi.biz> wrote: > > Hams are people. Some people are dishonest. > > However, to judge whether a contact is honest or not cannot be made on the > basis of what we think we know about propagation. > > Remember that Hams in the USA were given the use of frequencies of 200 > meters and down based on the "scientific" knowledge that any wavelength less > than 200 meter was totally useless for communications beyond a mile or two. > 200 meters is about 1500 kHz. They were saying that any frequency higher > than 1500 kHz was useless for long-distance communications: All of the HF > ham bands were useless for communications beyond a mile or two or as some > said (beyond their back yards). > > We know that is not true. Further, we are still discovering unexpected > oddities in propagation. Exploring those oddities is one of the major > justifications for even having Hams because there are so many of us > tinkering around with things others are sure will never work. > > Sure, a pair of Hams may collude to report a contact. But to assume it was > not possible is to reject the very basis for why Ham radio exists (at least > in the USA). > > I suggest that such odd reports be places on "suspension" until more are > received, just as any other experience would be until it is proven > "repeatable". Only then could it be accepted as "proof" of the first > occurrence. > > Otherwise it is allowed to fade into obscurity along with things like cold > fusion. > > 73 Ron AC7AC > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene > Gabry > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:45 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSLs > > I think what Jorge might have been inferring is, LOTW doesn't have the same > capability as a log checker would to make a judgment that a two way contact > could not have been made on 160m between a station in Chicago at 12 noon > Chicago time and say Australia. What's to say a couple hams might have > coordinated together to falsely upload a contact as mentioned to finish off > an award? The times and frequency and calls match, confirmed contact. Most > hams would not even think of doing this. But, just as is the human condition > in life, cheating happens. I'm sure it happens to some % in the ham > community as well. > > Gene, N9TF > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim > Brown > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:51 PM > To: Reflector Elecraft > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSLs > > LOTW runs on GMT (UTC). If you keep your log in UTC, all will be confirmed. > Except, of course, for a few stations that don't get it right. But that is > rare. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swa...@elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com