Hi Wayne!

I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to the K4. Thanks 
so much!

I can easily recognize other rigs in cw nets. 

50 years of cw traffic!

Tom W4KX

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> On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM.
> 
> There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't have 
> to update a synth between TX and RX.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the 
>> reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 
>> 
>> Tom W4KX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
>> 
>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, 
>>> well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor 
>>> even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a 
>>> clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. 
>>> Itwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspaces    Now that just 
>>> doesn't work with my brain.
>>> 
>>> As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in a 
>>> room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and does 
>>>  the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with the same 
>>> style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets above certain 
>>> points, hearing between CW elements and words become non existent.
>>> 
>>> After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a 
>>> fairly good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to stimulate 
>>> my old slow brain.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>>>> I have always felt as K9ZTV does.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right 
>>>> to use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the 
>>>> need to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than 
>>>> enough for me, especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, 
>>>> I've always felt it was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for 
>>>> anything other than an emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the other 
>>>> guy suddenly broke in frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was 
>>>> definitely a valid emergency. I could almost smell his final getting red 
>>>> hot and hear the plate current pegging the meter that evening.
>>>> 
>>>> Al  W6LX
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can 
>>>>>>> think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death 
>>>>>>> virtue.  The ability to hear between characters is by far magical 
>>>>>>> enough.
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