I eavesdrop on the 80 m traffic nets occasionally. Impressive level of 
efficiency and skill among the ops. Who knew there were so many Q-codes :)

Wayne
N6KR


> On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Tom Doligalski <w...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne!
> 
> I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to the K4. 
> Thanks so much!
> 
> I can easily recognize other rigs in cw nets. 
> 
> 50 years of cw traffic!
> 
> Tom W4KX
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM.
>> 
>> There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't have 
>> to update a synth between TX and RX.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>>> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the 
>>> reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 
>>> 
>>> Tom W4KX
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad 
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, 
>>>> well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor 
>>>> even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a 
>>>> clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. 
>>>> Itwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspaces    Now that just 
>>>> doesn't work with my brain.
>>>> 
>>>> As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in a 
>>>> room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and 
>>>> does  the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with the 
>>>> same style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets above 
>>>> certain points, hearing between CW elements and words become non existent.
>>>> 
>>>> After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a 
>>>> fairly good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to 
>>>> stimulate my old slow brain.
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>>> 
>>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>>>>> I have always felt as K9ZTV does.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right 
>>>>> to use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the 
>>>>> need to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than 
>>>>> enough for me, especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, 
>>>>> I've always felt it was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for 
>>>>> anything other than an emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the 
>>>>> other guy suddenly broke in frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was 
>>>>> definitely a valid emergency. I could almost smell his final getting red 
>>>>> hot and hear the plate current pegging the meter that evening.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Al  W6LX
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can 
>>>>>>>> think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death 
>>>>>>>> virtue.  The ability to hear between characters is by far magical 
>>>>>>>> enough.
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