My response was regarding the post talking about operators, see quoted text quote in my response.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 6/9/21 6:03 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:
It wasn't about the operator, it was about the hardware. I talked to the
ham involved, and he's a nice enough bloke. I have no beef with him.

My antennas are, unfortunately, not designed with a useful null. I have an
end feed W3EDP style that works very well, and a Comet CHA-250B vertical.
Neither can reasonably be pointed to attenuate the signal.

Gwen, NG3P


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 8:51 PM Dave <d...@nk7z.net> wrote:

I must respectfully disagree sir...

The ordinary ham should be able to tell when his/her rig is out of spec.
   The ordinary ham should be able to operate his/her rig correctly.
That is just no longer the case.  There are a lot of folks out there
that don't even know how a repeater works at the most basic of levels.
They are operating HF rigs with no understanding of how they work, and
no understanding of what limits they need to maintain.

They create a mess on the air, and should be told about it.  Nicely, but
told non the less.  It is far better to have a fellow ham tell you you
have an issue, than have the FCC tell you...

Speaking of the FCC, I don't remember the FCC turning over
responsibility for signal quality to the manufactures of radios,
absolving the operator of all responsibility...  It is the operators job
to make sure he/she is operating their radio correctly, and within
tolerance, period, end of discussion, the operator is responsible.

If he/she can not tell there is a problem, than that ham should not be
allowed to transmit...

There are dirty transmitters all over, and they meet FCC specs...  How
can that be you might ask yourself?

In a lot of cases, the operator is not knowledgeable in how to drive the
transmitter properly, or that low voltages feeding the transmitter can
cause issues, or that triggering ALC in FT8 causes issues, there are any
number of settings the Amateur can screw up, and the rig meets FCC
specs...

So no, it is not "out of line" to let someone know their transmitter is
spraying crap.

On 6/9/21 5:02 PM, Richards wrote:
Anyone condemning other hams for using "dirty transmitters"  is simply
out of line.

The ordinary ham is NOT an Electrical Engineer and he buys his rig in
good faith, believing it passed FCC and other engineering standards. He
uses it in good faith, assuming it is OK and not causing problems. But
then, a few self-appointed Frequency Cops condemn the poor operator as a
bad citizen for using a "dirty transmitter"  as if the operator is
somehow to blame.   I have worked a lot of contests with crowded
conditions in a large metropolitan area, and nobody has ever whined
about any of this, notwithstanding a couple of self-appointed experts
living in the mountains of CA and CO claim it is a horrible epidemic.
Besides, if this was such big problem why is it such a new, current
topic? Supposedly, all those old rigs have been noisy all the time.   I
suspect it is topical only because they have nothing else to talk about.

Well, even if it is a problem, there is no place for this sort of
personal attack in ham radio, AND IT IS SIMPLY WRONG TO BLAME THE
OPERATOR for how his rig works.   For most ops, ham radio is just a
hobby and they are entitled to expect their radios will work right.
Blaming the operator is simply out of line.   K8JHR


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