On 1/25/10 5:59 PM, "Caio Chassot" <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>> Or skip that too, and allow it to be smart-foldered.
>>> 
>>> We have to ship with *some* layout.
>>> 
>>> (And store sent messages somewhere on the server.)
>> 
>> You're assuming you get to chose this. That's an incorrect assumption to
>> make. Not all IMAP servers allow you to pick, not all server administrators
>> allow this.
> 
> Your beloved gmail, for one, will just take whatever you send through its SMTP
> and store it in your big email soup that it then exposes to IMAP.

Dude, I hate Gmail, I think it's overpromoted crap with a silly UI and the
worst IMAP implementation I've ever seen, and I include older versions of
Exchange there.

> 
> But so, with standard IMAP implementations that have nothing to do with the
> MTA, it's the client's job to store the sent messages. How is it that the
> server has any saying in where the message goes? Does it discern in any way
> between a sent message and a received message? Some messages are neither
> (drafts, imports).

Because this isn't POP, and "where things go" is not clear. They can go on
the server, they can go on the client, even if you're caching. (you guys
REALLY NEED TO LEARN ABOUT IMAP) If you compose a message, it can be copied
to the local or the server store. You have to have both, because of Webmail.
(Well, you can not copy it to the local, but you have to have the server.)

If you're copying to the server, you don't always get to pick where your
sent mail lives. Or your trash. Or your drafts. You have to deal with that,
in an elegant manner.

As it turns out, because of how IMAP works, it's actually pretty good at
telling if a message is a draft, has been sent, etc. (It would be rather
non-functional if it couldn't.)

I'm not sure what you think IMAP is, but I'm beginning to think that while
you use that word a lot, it doesn't mean what you think it does.


-- 
John C. Welch         Writer/Analyst
Bynkii.com              Mac and other opinions
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