1/04/03 17:09 chris :

>I think it has something to do with the fact that the Kensington software 
>in Classic sees the mouse as a trackball. I don't know if that is due to 
>a Kensington bug, or due to OS X doing something screwy.

I believe it isn't a bug on either side: OS X doesn't allow direct 
hardware access to Classic. USB Overdrive apparently solved that, 
probably by linking its Classic "driver" to the related X software 
instead.

>Kensington actually specifically states NOT to run USB Overdrive
>[...]
>My guess is, they tell you that A: so you use their software, and B: 
>because I'd not be surprised that if you ran their software AND USB 
>Overdrive, that the two would fight over control of the mouse and strange 
>results may occur.

Or C: because you might discover it's better than their software, or at 
least more stable.

Of course I wouldn't install both, bad things ar likely to happen (and 
anyway I'd use USB Overdrive to avoid the driver, so...)

I may be wrong, but it makes sense to me that USB Overdrive seems more 
stable than proprietary drivers as it is made by a dedicated individual 
with vast experience of many different devices (it started as a 
replacement for missing mac drivers for PC mice and joysticks), rather 
than the small second-thought mac team isolated in each manufacturer's 
backyard.

On the other hand, dedicated manufacturers can cause 3rd-parties hard 
times figuring out their harware if they really don't want it to work 
outside their cage. In fact I recently realized I'd rather recommend a 
dirt cheap PC mouse and spend the difference on USB Overdrive than face 
the proprietary drivers nightmares even if they have more features (I had 
very bad experiences, there's nothing worse than the fear that each click 
might randomly crash the mac).

>Scrolling in Emailer would be great since the long message windows always 
>open so the scroll arrows are below the dock.

Or you could adjust a "Zoom" script to take that into account. I don't 
know if I released it ( I believe I modified an existing script): I 
assigned Cmd-Opt-Z to a script that causes the front or selected messages 
to open, collapse recipients and attachments panes, and zoom using 
Emailer's command (which doesn't know the Dock). I Cmd-Opt-Z almost 
everything, and I miss the feature in other apps.

But it would be harder to script window sizes to acknowledge the Dock 
instead of just "zoom", so I'd rather avoid it: did you try to put the 
Dock on one side ? I did and never came back. In fact I even discovered 2 
possible situations:
- on most screens (above 1024x768), the Dock is better on the right and 
always visible (because few things extend enough to the right to be a 
problem whereas almost ALL windows tend to reach the bottom)
- on small screens like my iBook (800x600), it is better on the left 
(because most windows extend to the right side of that screen, causing a 
right-sided Dock to interfere with scrollbars and resize boxes even more 
than when at the bottom, whereas all that's on the left of windows is the 
close box and I use Cmd-W anyway), and hide it with apps that don't know 
the Dock and would open windows underneath, like Emailer.

>I can't believe I lived this long without a scroll mouse. 

I've wanted such things for more than 10 years, after I saw a "button 
box" on a Silicon Graphics workstation (a box with many rotating knobs 
that caused CAD programs to zoom, rotate, pan, move, etc. long before the 
"revolutionary" idea that a wheel could scroll 2D windows in one 
direction).

And if you ask me, I don't even think the scrollwheel got it right: I 
would have put it on the side of the mouse, moving up and down, so that 
it would be analog to scroll up/down AND left/right, whereas a central 
wheel moving front/back can't reflect left/right logically, even if you 
can use it for that.

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VRic

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