On 4/28/2011 11:39 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
> I've been mulling over how to use later Fanuc brushless motors that have
> the serial encoder.
> I have gotten just a little bit of data about them.  Apparently, they
> send a 77-bit string at 100K bits/second.
> So, the readout takes almost a ms.  Now, a lot of people would want to
> convert this to quadrature.
> One problem shows up immediately, they have 65K and 1 million count/rev
> versions.  At 1800 RPM,
> the million count encoder would need to send 30 million quadrature
>    

Jon,

Are those serial encoders clocked by the attached device like a SSI 
encoder?    If that is the case, perhaps you can clock them faster than 
100K per second.

I was just working with some new Heidenhain SSI encoders that are 
attached to an Allen Bradley PLC and the specs say it can be clocked 
from about 60 khz to just over a megahertz.

These encoders came attached to some SEW motors and we had some problems 
reading the encoder position.   Turns out the AB card was defective out 
of the box.

The AB servo card can clock the encoder at 208 khz or about 600 khz and 
use it to close a servo loop.

These SSI encoders are absolute.    I have no idea how long the message 
string is, but looking at it on an O-scope, it doesn't look nearly 77 
bits long.   The only critical setup parameter
was the number of significant bits per revolution and for these encoders 
the magic number was 13 bits even though the encoders only report 4096 
counts per rev.

I was setting up a test system with a Siemens servo drive and motor that 
also had an absolute SSI encoder attached but that was communicating 
back to the drive controller via Siemens
Drive Click protocol.

The Drive Click setup allows the drive controller to simply read out all 
of the encoder and motor parameters directly, so the setup between the 
drive controller and the motor/encoder is
pretty much automatic.    SEW does something similar on their servo 
drive systems also.

I wonder if those Fanuc encoders aren't passing a lot more than just 
encoder data?

A millisecond for an encoder reading seems like a very long time.

Siemens has brand labeled Heidenhain two bearing encoders for years, and 
obviously SEW uses them also.  I wonder if Fanuc makes their own or ?

Dave

Dave

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