On Saturday 06 July 2013 15:53:41 Chris Morley did opine:

> > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 13:23:15 -0500
> > From: el...@pico-systems.com
> > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] "Open" Development
> > 
> > EBo wrote:
> > >   Seriously though, we should
> > > 
> > > be able to merge Araisrobo's code and add spindle synchronized.
> > 
> > Well, it is pretty obvious to me that jerk limiting and having the Z
> > axis follow the spindle are in conflict.  So, I think the jerk
> > limiting may need to be turned off when in a spindle-sync move. 
> > Generally, sane G33.1 operations won't cause excessive jerk, so that
> > probably is OK.  One also may need to control the rate of spindle
> > reversal, which you need to do anyway to allow Z to keep up.
> > 
> > Jon
> 
> I am not an expert, just interested. I don't follow your reasoning.
> Jerk limiting is about having the TP ask for movement that is possible
> for the machine to actually produce.
> infinite jerk is impossible for a machine to produce movement for.
> While we can ignore it in relatively slow and small machines, I can not
> see why you would want to turn it off in some cases.
> It seems if you have the TP request infinite jerk, then you are must
> realize that your are asking the machine to NOT follow the TP command
> for a small instant.
> I don't see how G33.1 is any different then other machine movements.
> 
> Chris M

I know for a fact that in the G76 situation, the actual lock phase of 
spindle vs z is a function of spindle speed, caused by the finite time to 
accelerate the z to a speed whereby it can then remain locked.  That 
doesn't start until the index signal has been received

And, without verifying it by breaking a tap, or fubaring a hole, I would 
assume the initial startup in the G33.1 cycle is subjected to that same 
limitation.  The limitation manifests itself in the G76 cycle as a sideways 
miss-cut of the thread should you 'adjust' the spindle speed in the middle 
of cutting a thread.  There may be other 'canned' cycles similarly limited 
to constant speed spindles only, but I haven't found them, yet...

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