" I consider all our users to be somehow part of our project and am
agnostic about the interface they are using. From how I see it, if
PyQtVCP does something better than QtVCP then QtVCP gets some
encouragement and ideas on how to improve and vice versa. Both
GUIsshould be as easy to install and use as possible. Neither QtVCP
nor QtPyVCP are GUIs, they are infrastructure for creating GUIS.  I
would think that most users will use neither, they will just use the
GUIs that have been developed."

100% ^^^

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 7:32 PM Phill Carter <phillcarte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 1 Dec 2022, at 10:27 am, Steffen Moeller <steffen_moel...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Am 30.11.2022 um 19:12 schrieb Chris Morley:
> >> The difference is free cad doesn't compete with anything in linuxcnc. 
> >> Qtpycp does. If they wanted to be included in linuxcnc, then they would 
> >> have been part of the project. They made a choice.
> >> Otherwise as I said you are undermining the hard work of the devs that are 
> >> active in our project.
> >
> > I consider all our users to be somehow part of our project and am
> > agnostic about the interface they are using. From how I see it, if
> > PyQtVCP does something better than QtVCP then QtVCP gets some
> > encouragement and ideas on how to improve and vice versa. Both GUIs
> > should be as easy to install and use as possible.
> Neither QtVCP nor QtPyVCP are GUIs, they are infrastructure for creating GUIS.
> I would think that most users will use neither, they will just use the GUIs 
> that have been developed.
>
> >
> > Best,
> > Steffen
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original message --------
> >> From: Steffen Moeller <steffen_moel...@gmx.de>
> >> Date: 2022-11-30 9:35 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
> >> To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new 
> >> German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 29.11.2022 um 19:06 schrieb Chris Morley:
> >>> Are you discussing an official linuxcnc release of ISOs?
> >> So I hope.
> >>> Are you suggesting including qtpyvcp on the ISO?
> >> There are four Python modules missing in Debian to do so, from what I
> >> have yet understood. But I feel motivated to help out, just locally
> >> packaged oyaml.
> >>> In my mind that undermines qtvcp which is actually part of linuxcnc.
> >>> Full disclosure, qtvcp is project I started so I am slightly biased.
> >> My motivation is to bring the best of Open Source CNC on Linux together
> >> to help myself and others. And from what I hear and see, this includes
> >> PyQtVCP. You may have a point for the minimal version of that .iso, but
> >> for the full featured one it should be in, also FreeCAD and inkscape.
> >>
> >> Steffen
> >>
> >>> -------- Original message --------
> >>> From: Steffen Möller <steffen_moel...@gmx.de>
> >>> Date: 2022-11-29 8:53 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
> >>> To: LinuxCNC Dev Mailing List <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >>> Subject: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German 
> >>> friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> No need to watch this, really. Titan has a nice Heller machine and passes 
> >>> the Sinumeric control
> >>> https://youtu.be/zToKZtqQMIo?t=354
> >>> with some excitement. I actually find LinuxCNC even nicer, especially for 
> >>> what I saw from https://www.qtpyvcp.com/ .
> >>>
> >>> When we yesterday had this OpenMike session again, we had felt like there 
> >>> should be four USB sticks prepared:
> >>>    a) for two distros - Bullseye (Debian stable) and Bookworm (Debian 
> >>> testing, soon stable)
> >>>    b) in two flavours - minimalistic and fully-featured (including 
> >>> FreeCAD and Inkscape to make a good impression on those who come from the 
> >>> other OS)
> >>>
> >>> Andy had some confidence (and I share that) that the generation of those 
> >>> .iso files per se is not difficult. It was not immediately clear where 
> >>> the generation of those .iso files should happen, but the builders 
> >>> maintained by Sebastian are a likely target IMO.
> >>>
> >>> Question: Is there anybody out there who would like to work with me on a 
> >>> description and implementation of what the fully-featured .ISO should 
> >>> like alike? This would be Intel-only as a start, leaving everything for 
> >>> the RPi to Raspbian for the time being.
> >>>
> >>> There are a couple of Python libraries still missing on Debian to get 
> >>> QtPyVCP installed. This would likely be something for me to address.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Steffem
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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