Re: [Emc-developers] Washington State Bill 2321

Fri, 23 Jan 2026 08:37:09 -0800 


> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2026 um 18:18
> Von: "Jon Elson" <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Washington State Bill 2321
>
> On 1/22/26 10:03, Robert Schöftner wrote:
> &gt; Am Donnerstag, dem 22.01.2026 um 13:17 +0000 schrieb andy pugh:
> &gt;&gt; 
> https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2025-26/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/2321.pdf?q=20260122051205
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Page 2, line 17.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; If this passes then we would probably have no alternative but to not
> &gt;&gt; allow the use of LinuxCNC in Washington State.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; I see no way at all for LinuxCNC to comply. But I also see no way at
> &gt;&gt; all to prevent the use of LinuxCNC in Wa.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt; obviously I am not a lawyer, but IMO linuxcnc is no "machine" and this
> &gt; text seems to be concerned with "machines". In some sense, software (at
> &gt; least the source code) is "speech" and should have first amendment
> &gt; protections in the "land of the supposed-to-be-free". cf. the PGP
> &gt; situation ~30years ago which was classified as munitions and they tried
> &gt; to export-control it as such.
> &gt;
> &gt; This will probably be more of a problem for Tormach and in general all
> &gt; CNC machine tool vendors.
> 
> I PITY all manufacturers of machine tools and 3D printers if this insanity 
> passes.  What about slip-ups?  How about if some machine builder has 
> implemented the required filter and had it tested by some agency, and then it 
> is found that a ghost gun part was made on that machine because the software 
> FAILED to detect it?  What about guys who make airsoft gun parts?  Those 
> would LIKELY be refused.  I can imagine a case where a shop buys a new 
> machine specifically to make airsoft guns, and it refuses their G-code.  
> Then, they sue the manufacturer or the dealer of the machine.  UGH!

Some specs for that detection software would be nice. It is not like with some 
replicator of the Enterprise where you order a gun that would then be denied. 
You print multiple parts that you assemble to then resemble a gun. I presume we 
all on this list can come up with a design for a gun that does not look 
gun-like at all - in its parts or when assembled. Sounds like we have a new 
sport - come up with the most ungunlike gun.

Wrt subtractive manufacturing - correct me if I am wrong, but if I recall 
correctly the world has handguns for some 150 years and you do not need the CNC 
bits to prepare a gun, right?

Other than finding that craze entertaining, I admit to share the worry to have 
untraceable, dead-cheap throwaway-guns on the (black) market that are 
non-detectable by metal detectors and unrecognizable while disassembled and say 
smuggled into the airport by multiple individuals that then share a coffee and 
parts while waiting for their departure.

Steffen






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