no one wants guns at the airport but bullets are still detectable. Also a
gcode file for cnc would look a lot different than a 3d printer file,
unless you 3d mill the whole thing from a solid billet.


On Fri, Jan 23, 2026, 11:37 AM Steffen Möller via Emc-developers <
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>
>
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2026 um 18:18
> > Von: "Jon Elson" <[email protected]>
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Washington State Bill 2321
> >
> > On 1/22/26 10:03, Robert Schöftner wrote:
> > &gt; Am Donnerstag, dem 22.01.2026 um 13:17 +0000 schrieb andy pugh:
> > &gt;&gt;
> https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2025-26/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/2321.pdf?q=20260122051205
> > &gt;&gt;
> > &gt;&gt; Page 2, line 17.
> > &gt;&gt;
> > &gt;&gt; If this passes then we would probably have no alternative but
> to not
> > &gt;&gt; allow the use of LinuxCNC in Washington State.
> > &gt;&gt;
> > &gt;&gt; I see no way at all for LinuxCNC to comply. But I also see no
> way at
> > &gt;&gt; all to prevent the use of LinuxCNC in Wa.
> > &gt;&gt;
> > &gt; obviously I am not a lawyer, but IMO linuxcnc is no "machine" and
> this
> > &gt; text seems to be concerned with "machines". In some sense, software
> (at
> > &gt; least the source code) is "speech" and should have first amendment
> > &gt; protections in the "land of the supposed-to-be-free". cf. the PGP
> > &gt; situation ~30years ago which was classified as munitions and they
> tried
> > &gt; to export-control it as such.
> > &gt;
> > &gt; This will probably be more of a problem for Tormach and in general
> all
> > &gt; CNC machine tool vendors.
> >
> > I PITY all manufacturers of machine tools and 3D printers if this
> insanity passes.  What about slip-ups?  How about if some machine builder
> has implemented the required filter and had it tested by some agency, and
> then it is found that a ghost gun part was made on that machine because the
> software FAILED to detect it?  What about guys who make airsoft gun parts?
> Those would LIKELY be refused.  I can imagine a case where a shop buys a
> new machine specifically to make airsoft guns, and it refuses their
> G-code.  Then, they sue the manufacturer or the dealer of the machine.  UGH!
>
> Some specs for that detection software would be nice. It is not like with
> some replicator of the Enterprise where you order a gun that would then be
> denied. You print multiple parts that you assemble to then resemble a gun.
> I presume we all on this list can come up with a design for a gun that does
> not look gun-like at all - in its parts or when assembled. Sounds like we
> have a new sport - come up with the most ungunlike gun.
>
> Wrt subtractive manufacturing - correct me if I am wrong, but if I recall
> correctly the world has handguns for some 150 years and you do not need the
> CNC bits to prepare a gun, right?
>
> Other than finding that craze entertaining, I admit to share the worry to
> have untraceable, dead-cheap throwaway-guns on the (black) market that are
> non-detectable by metal detectors and unrecognizable while disassembled and
> say smuggled into the airport by multiple individuals that then share a
> coffee and parts while waiting for their departure.
>
> Steffen
>
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