The answer is probably "yes", as the "B" mark implies
both EMC and safety conformity. IEC 950 or equivalent
apply regardless of Class A or B for EMC.
George Alspaugh
---------------------- Forwarded by George Alspaugh on 06/18/98 02:33 PM
---------------------------
"Grasso, Charles (Chaz)"
<grassc%louisville.stortek....@interlock.lexmark.com> on 06/18/98 02:10:39
PM
To: "'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'"
<emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee....@interlock.lexmark.com>, George
Alspaugh@LEXMARK
cc:
bcc:
Subject: RE: EMC/Safety in Poland
I have an ITE question..
Is the Polish B mark required for Class A gear (as defined
by CISPR22)?
Thank you
Charles Grasso
EMC Engineer
StorageTek
2270 Sth 88th Street
Louisville CO 80027 MS 4262
gra...@louisville.stortek.com
Tel:(303)673-2908
Fax(303)661-7115
Symposium Website URL: http://www.ball.com/aerospace/ieee_emc.html
>----------
>From: geor...@lexmark.com[SMTP:geor...@lexmark.com]
>Reply To: geor...@lexmark.com
>Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 6:51 AM
>To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>Subject: RE: EMC/Safety in Poland
>
>Bogdan,
>
>You are probably correct on the wiring issue. The problem is
>trying to get answers as to why from the PCBC. We use business
>partners who are residents of Poland in Warsaw to work with the
>PCBC and still had difficulty understanding the "extra"
>requirements.
>
>If the problem is the plug, as you say, why would other affected
>countries not require the same manual statments? For Class II
>equipment, reversal of phase and neutral will have little effect
>on the safety of the equipment.
>
>I am well aware that either the wall plug or the appliance inlet
>connector can serve as the official disconnect. Perhaps the PCBC
>is not equally aware of this. However, in this case, the issue
>of disconnct has nothing to do with safety, but of economy of
>electrical power. Some ITE when turned "off" is designed to go
>into a "sleep" or idle mode. If the user is not aware of this,
>and must achieve zero watts, I suppose only a manual statement
>can solve this problem.
>
>George
>
>
>Please respond to Bogdan Matoga
> <bogdan.matoga%fibre....@interlock.lexmark.com>
>
>To: George Alspaugh@LEXMARK,
> emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee....@interlock.lexmark.com
>cc:
>bcc:
>Subject: RE: EMC/Safety in Poland
>
>
>
>
>George:
>I am sorry, but your statement that Polish outlets are not always wired
>correctly is incomplete at best.
>The problem is the plug, which can be reversed, even when everything is
>wired correctly. The same "problem" exists also in Germany. France
>avoided the possibility of reversal but different configuration of the
>grounding pin which protrudes from the face of their outlet, the
>corresponding plug has a female connector for this pin. As far as
>"miswiring" of outlets is concerned, you can find that even in the
>U.S.A., intended to say that even non-reversible plugs are no guarantee
>that a single pole switch (or fuse) does the job.
>Furthermore, as far as on/off switches are cincerned, IEC950, Sec. 2.6.2
>permits the use of the plug on the power supply cord etc. as a
>disconnect device.
>Regards,
>Bogdan.
>bogdan.mat...@fibre.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geor...@lexmark.com [SMTP:geor...@lexmark.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 12:39 PM
> To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: EMC/Safety in Poland
>
> Susan,
>
> You may find one or more of the following requirments as well:
>
> Signed and "sealed" statements pertaining to your ground
> continuity and hi-pot testing.
>
> Manual statement that the product must be unplugged to reduce
> power (watts) to zero. Polish law requires all unused ITE to be
> turned off at night. Some low end ITE do not have on/off
> switches as at rest power is only 3-5W.
>
> Manual statement if the on/off switch does not break both sides
> (phase and neutral) on line. Polish outlets are not always
> wired as intended.
>
> An inspection of your factory by PCBC inspector. Ours took two
> days, at our expense.
>
> etc..
>
> George Alspaugh
>
>
> Please respond to krzysiak%polbox....@interlock.lexmark.com
>
> To: emc-pstc%ieee....@interlock.lexmark.com
> cc: Susan Beard <sbeard%iu....@interlock.lexmark.com> (bcc:
>George
> Alspaugh)
> bcc: George Alspaugh
> Subject: Re: EMC/Safety in Poland
>
>
>
> Dear Susan,
>
> Before obtaining "B" safety certificate of ITE in Poland you
>have to
> deliver:
> Application form
> CB Test Certificate
> CB Test Report
> Operation manual
> Service manual
> Test reports (RFI)
> to Polish Centre for Testing and Certification
> (see: http://www.cbscheme.org/country/cbpoland.htm for details)
> If you don't have any test reports you may let an accredited
>laboratory
> in Poland (like this one below) to carry out these tests for
>you:
> - safety acc. to PN-93/T-42107 (idt. IEC 950: 1991 +A1: 1992 +
>A2:
> 1993),
> - radiofrequency disturbance acc. to PN-EN 55022: 1996 (idt.
>CISPR 22:
> 1993 document).
> Best regards,
>
>
> Krzysztof Sieczkarek
> Laboratory of Automatic Identification Techniques
> Institute of Logistics and Warehousing
> Poznan, Poland
> fax +48 61 8526376
> http://www.ilim.poznan.pl/la/index_E.html
>
>
> Susan Beard wrote:
> >
> > I recently read an article in Conformity discussing Poland's
>"B" mark
> for safety certification. Could anyone in this group provide
>more
> information on both the EMC and safety requirements for shipping
>ITE
> into
> Poland?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Susan Beard
> > sbe...@xlcomputing.com
> > Cycomm Secure Solutions
> > (formerly XL Computing, Inc.)
> >
> > RCIC - http://www.rcic.com
> > Regulatory Compliance Information Center
>
>
>
>
