LAN ports Testing Conducted RF Emissions on LAN twisted-pair lines is almost contrary to the intent of EN 55022 as Gary pointed out. Conducted emissions is more appropriate for asynchronous analog lines. LAN transmissions are digital and synchronous (except maybe ATM); the receiver part of the interface circuitry locks onto the frequency of data, rejecting spurious frequencies. The signals are truely digital, not analog as in a modem. Arcnet, Ethernet, and Fast Ethernet TP cabling links two points (node, hub, switch, bridge) which digitally reconstitute the signal, eliminating spurious cable frequencies. Token-Ring is peer-peer, usually through a passive hub. Each node (peer) reconstitutes the signal as above. Ethernet, F-E and Token-Ring ANSI/IEEE or ISO/IEC physical layer requirements define interfaces, cable lengths/type(s) and timing. Coax cable rules for Arcnet, 10Base2 Ethernet) permit connection to multiple nodes but again, the digital nature of the signals and the well-defined connectivity rules prevent problems. David ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports Author: "Gary McInturff" <SMTP:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com> at ADEMCONET List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 9/5/2000 10:54 AM
Define telecom port. A LAN port isn't neccessarily a LAN port. Ethernet ports do not connect directly to the Telecommunications network - a necessary condition before being a telecommunications port. LANS and MANS operate all of the time without any use of any telecommunications equipment. Generally, Ethernet or Fast Ethernet for short distances and Gig Ethernet for longer distances. IF -- the telecommunications lines are needed there is some sort of "bridge" that takes the ethernet and its digitized Voice over Internet Protocol (Voip) and does all of the phone stuff and makes the actual metallic connection. That "birdge" has the only telecommunication ports on it. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Pryor McGinnis [mailto:c...@prodigy.net] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 6:24 AM To: Pettit, Ghery; david_ster...@ademco.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports Confusing isn't? ----- Original Message ----- From: Pettit, Ghery <ghery.pet...@intel.com> To: <david_ster...@ademco.com>; <emc-p...@ieee.org>; <c...@prodigy.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:40 PM Subject: RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports > Actually, it's August 1, 2001 as posted in the OJ on January 25th of this > year. You've got 1 less month to start testing to the new standard. > > Ghery Pettit > Intel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: david_ster...@ademco.com [mailto:david_ster...@ademco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:04 PM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org; c...@prodigy.net > Subject: RE: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports > > > > The date of withdrawal of EN 55022:1998 is September 1, 2001. Look at > the NIC manual's DofC --- the mfgr. may not be declaring compliance to > conducted emissions yet. > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: Re: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports > Author: "Pryor McGinnis" <SMTP:c...@prodigy.net> at ADEMCONET > Date: 8/30/2000 10:31 AM > > > Hello All, > > The question originated from a manufacturer of LAN boards who sells to end > users and to manufacturer's who integrate the LAN boards into end products. > > I advised the LAN board manufacturer that conducted emissions would be > required (with boards installed in typical host) on all LAN boards sold to > end users and manufacturers of products that integrated LAN boards should > test the ports for conducted emission in their end product. The LAN board > manufacturer questioned double testing of the LAN boards. His concern is > that boards that pass CE in a typical host may not pass in another > manufacturer's end product (rub of the green). The LAN Board manufacturer > ask for second opinions. > > Many thanks for your answers. > > Best Regards, > Pryor > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pryor McGinnis [SMTP:c...@prodigy.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:35 PM > > To: emc-pstc > > Subject: Conducted Emissions on Telecom Ports > > > > Below is a message from a non emc-pstc member. > > > > If a manufacturer purchases LAN boards which have been tested for > > conducted emissions in a host, is the manufacturer required to retest the > > LAN Ports for conducted emissions if the manufacturer sells his product > with > > the LAN board installed? > > > > I am very interested in your comments. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > Pryor McGinnis > > c...@prodigy.net <mailto:c...@prodigy.net> > > www.ctl-lab.com <http://www.ctl-lab.com> > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > > majord...@ieee.org > > with the single line: > > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com > > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > > > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > > > ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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