John: I thought I had lost your original statement about CE not having a bearing on Quality. I would agree also. The statement was made, as I recall, in some article in Compliance Engineering. Not that UL is a quality mark or RU or FCC 15 etc. Quality is highly dependant on how your marketing people perceive it and refers to appearance, dependability, reputation, need fulfillment and a host of things thought to benefit the cutomer - from the manufacturer's view.
On the other hand a CE mark is a rating of performance and how many consumers even know about it? I ask every computer salesman I have occasion to meet the meaning of CE and I have yet to find one who knows. After I explain it to him, he agrees that some generic immunity is a good thing. If you look at all the components and larger computer peripherls now bearing a CE mark, it must be cost effective to include it. I suppress consumer equipment that suffers from no immunity with a simple non intrusive method and suggest to the same consumer to be aware and next time look for a product with the CE mark. I yet to encounter a problem with a CE marked product ( modems, video cards, displays, CD players, and even boom boxes) that could never hack it in today's RF environment. CE is a consumer benefit because it guarnatees a minimum level of immunity With all these domestic wireless devices , it makes prudent engineering sense. Designed in is the only way to go. I don't want to do this forever. Ralph Cameron EMC Consulting and Suppression of Consumer Electronics. (after sale) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodgate" <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> To: <emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: Re: ESD - time between successive discharges > > <95fbd8b0830ed511b7720002a51363f1319...@exw-ks.ks.lsil.com>, Ehler, Kyle > <keh...@lsil.com> inimitably wrote: > > > > No John, I'm not referring to you. (or anyone else in particular) I dont > > know you well enough -yet..<lol> > > I'm just spaking on how we do the job of ensuring that our products meet the > > standards. > > I only pick up typos when they are amusing (like, 'We then repeated the > tests for completemess.'), or could create confusion. > > > > We take this work very seriously and I agree with you that the CE mark is > > not a quality mark, > > Good; my comment was directed to those who might think it is. > > I agree with most of the rest of your comments. > -- > Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk > This message and its contents are not confidential, privileged or protected > by law. Access is only authorised by the intended recipient - this means YOU! > The contents may be disclosed to, or used by, anyone and stored or copied in > any medium. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender > yesterday at the latest. > > ------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org > Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall," > > ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Heald davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
